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Thread (Discussion): Proposal for determing guest access to The Other Side

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Message 168216 (In Reply to Message 167904)

Posted by steve on Nov 29, 2005 06:38 PM | Also by steve

Gender: Male, Age Bracket: 30 - 39, State: Virginia, Country: United States

Free-flowing open communication isn't important? Are you saying you want scripted dialogue?

You misinterpreted what I wrote. I probably didn't communicate what I meant very well. I explained that here, after you posted the message I am replying to.

There are certain people barred from posting in The Other Side in spite of plenty of vocal support to the contrary by RSOs. Maintaining the restriction in the face of such sincere oppostition isn't courtesy.

The rule in place is that posting to that forum is restricted, though any thread creator can state in the initial post additional users or types of user they're open to participating in the thread. Permanent guests will be implemented as soon I get a chance. My best guess is this weekend.

So why are POs barred? Simple question.

Because a lot of people in law enforcement wouldn't fit the criteria.

Will you bar me from The Other Side if such a scenario plays out in there and I'm the one telling the guy to quit his denial and own up to his responsibility?

No, because I think that's appropriate and tolerable coming from a peer.

I think The Other Side's "users" have made their position clear on who they want to be allowed to participate. So what's the holdup?

I have a lot on my plate and some things I need to deal with are taking priority.

I for one am not going to get into a private debate on the relative merits and shortcomings of other posters. Either I think they're an appropriate fit or I don't.

That's fine by me. Unless others feel the need to discuss, I'll assume that's not necessary and re-evaluate if users voice a need for it in the future.

That's a good one. A private forum to debate the merits of people, but its moderated. Now just HOW do you expect the RSOs to speak their minds amongst themselves about potential participants if you're rejecting every other post as a "personal attack" on said potential participant?

I meant moderated in that it's only used for its intended purpose. Moot now anyway.

Such a post belongs in The Other Side. But since the POs and LEOs aren't allowed, you force me to decide to either not post the question at all or post it in the General Forum...

You can post it to The Other Side and in your initial post state that POs are invited to respond.

I'll update everyone when I implement permanent guest access or do or consider anything else relevant.

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Message 167904

Posted by orolan on Nov 23, 2005 04:24 AM | Also by orolan

Gender: Male, Age Bracket: 40 - 49, State: N/A, Country: United States

<blockquote>Orolan, has anyone ever told you that you can be long winded at times?</blockquote>
More than once. But unlike some folks, I don't "talk" for 30 minutes and end up never saying a thing. If I did that, I would be a politician;-))
<blockquote>When has a moderated forum EVER been free of censorship?</blockquote>
True. This will be addressed further down the page.
<blockquote>BUT DO SOMETHING!</blockquote>
This one too will be addressed later, but we're flirting with rejection and warnings here for "questioning" the moderator's action (or inaction in this case).
<blockquote>It seems that certain posters have an almost carte-blanche approval to post whatever the want without their posts being edited or rejected.</blockquote>
Like you said, every moderated forum has some censorship. And as I said, that censorship will have a particular slant to it. Seems you found it. Gold star for you.
<blockquote>I think the truth here is that steve is trying to protect the feelings of the non-RSO's</blockquote>
Does seem that way. I guess they whine a lot more to him than we do;-))
<blockquote>Steve specifically gave us (RSO's) the authority to "invite" participation from anyone we desire to reply. I agree, it's a real PITA, but it does work.</blockquote>
I looked at a clay model yesterday of the 2008 Saleen S7 along with the spec sheet. Positively sinful machine. Looks great. Does it work? Heck no. It's a concept. That's what this invitation scheme is. It doesn't "work", because it doesn't exist. Where's the debate forum? The voting area? Who have you invited, debated about and approved? We're stuck in neutral here, coasting along. I see a hill up ahead and when we get to it, the whole thing will stop. Which I believe is the true agenda.

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166878, steve, Nov 08, 2005 04:25 AM
      166880, dp1, Nov 08, 2005 04:52 AM
            166882, steve, Nov 08, 2005 05:00 AM
                  166887, dp1, Nov 08, 2005 05:14 AM
                        166906, steve, Nov 08, 2005 02:25 PM
                              166911, dp1, Nov 08, 2005 03:08 PM
                                    166937, steve, Nov 08, 2005 07:47 PM
                                          167083, dp1, Nov 10, 2005 05:02 PM
                              167286, poetsdreamscape, Nov 15, 2005 02:01 AM [hog wash]
      166891, Scaye, Nov 08, 2005 05:31 AM
            166912, dp1, Nov 08, 2005 03:29 PM
                  166977, amberleaf, Nov 09, 2005 04:45 AM
                        167076, dp1, Nov 10, 2005 04:27 PM
      166916, rabbitreborn, Nov 08, 2005 04:31 PM
            166983, dp1, Nov 09, 2005 02:30 PM
      166917, orolan, Nov 08, 2005 04:56 PM
            166938, steve, Nov 08, 2005 07:52 PM
                  167035, orolan, Nov 10, 2005 02:23 AM
                        167074, dp1, Nov 10, 2005 04:03 PM
                              167269, rabbitreborn, Nov 14, 2005 02:02 PM
            166948, rabbitreborn, Nov 08, 2005 08:38 PM
            166978, dp1, Nov 09, 2005 04:55 AM
                  167068, rabbitreborn, Nov 10, 2005 02:28 PM
                        167073, dp1, Nov 10, 2005 03:52 PM
                        167141, rodsmith, Nov 11, 2005 03:33 PM
                        167148, amberleaf, Nov 11, 2005 08:48 PM [Steve]
                              167273, dp1, Nov 14, 2005 02:20 PM
                  167079, dp1, Nov 10, 2005 04:38 PM
                        167156, orolan, Nov 11, 2005 10:29 PM
                        167235, amberleaf, Nov 12, 2005 11:59 PM
      166958, Rejected
            167033, Rejected
            167061, Rejected
      167092, Renunciation, Nov 10, 2005 05:37 PM
            167155, orolan, Nov 11, 2005 10:25 PM
                  167267, rebel51, Nov 14, 2005 12:15 PM
                        167312, rabbitreborn, Nov 15, 2005 02:09 PM
            167218, Rejected
                  167339, Rejected
            167271, dp1, Nov 14, 2005 02:06 PM [Renny]
                  167360, Renunciation, Nov 15, 2005 05:51 PM
                        167375, PVulcan, Nov 15, 2005 10:25 PM
                        167380, dp1, Nov 15, 2005 10:53 PM [Rensterama]
                        167381, orolan, Nov 15, 2005 11:17 PM
      167230, Rejected
      167820, orolan, Nov 22, 2005 05:01 PM [Response to "Real Life Story"]
            167859, rabbitreborn, Nov 22, 2005 09:13 PM
                  167904, orolan, Nov 23, 2005 04:24 AM
                        168216, steve, Nov 29, 2005 06:38 PM
                              168248, rabbitreborn, Nov 29, 2005 10:25 PM
                                    168334, steve, Dec 01, 2005 01:25 AM
                                          168369, rabbitreborn, Dec 01, 2005 02:40 PM
                              168376, dp1, Dec 01, 2005 03:44 PM
                                    168484, orolan, Dec 03, 2005 02:21 AM
            167899, amberleaf, Nov 23, 2005 01:55 AM
                  167938, orolan, Nov 24, 2005 02:56 AM
                        168002, amberleaf, Nov 25, 2005 08:36 AM
                              168051, orolan, Nov 26, 2005 02:18 AM
                        168133, rabbitreborn, Nov 28, 2005 02:21 PM
                              168206, dp1, Nov 29, 2005 02:26 PM
                                    168278, Rejected

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