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Thread (Discussion): Proposal for determing guest access to The Other Side

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Message 167904 (In Reply to Message 167859)

Posted by orolan on Nov 23, 2005 04:24 AM | Also by orolan

Gender: Male, Age Bracket: 40 - 49, State: N/A, Country: United States

Orolan, has anyone ever told you that you can be long winded at times?

More than once. But unlike some folks, I don't "talk" for 30 minutes and end up never saying a thing. If I did that, I would be a politician;-))

When has a moderated forum EVER been free of censorship?

True. This will be addressed further down the page.

BUT DO SOMETHING!

This one too will be addressed later, but we're flirting with rejection and warnings here for "questioning" the moderator's action (or inaction in this case).

It seems that certain posters have an almost carte-blanche approval to post whatever the want without their posts being edited or rejected.

Like you said, every moderated forum has some censorship. And as I said, that censorship will have a particular slant to it. Seems you found it. Gold star for you.

I think the truth here is that steve is trying to protect the feelings of the non-RSO's

Does seem that way. I guess they whine a lot more to him than we do;-))

Steve specifically gave us (RSO's) the authority to "invite" participation from anyone we desire to reply. I agree, it's a real PITA, but it does work.

I looked at a clay model yesterday of the 2008 Saleen S7 along with the spec sheet. Positively sinful machine. Looks great. Does it work? Heck no. It's a concept. That's what this invitation scheme is. It doesn't "work", because it doesn't exist. Where's the debate forum? The voting area? Who have you invited, debated about and approved? We're stuck in neutral here, coasting along. I see a hill up ahead and when we get to it, the whole thing will stop. Which I believe is the true agenda.

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Message 167859

Posted by rabbitreborn on Nov 22, 2005 09:13 PM | Also by rabbitreborn

Gender: Male, Age Bracket: 30 - 39, State: Florida, Country: United States

Orolan, has anyone ever told you that you can be long winded at times? LOL

<blockquote>Free-flowing open communication isn't important? Are you saying you want scripted dialogue? Censorship always implies a slant towards a particular side or position even though that position may not be readily apparent to the casual viewer.</blockquote>
Orolan, get real. When has a moderated forum EVER been free of censorship? By it's very nature, moderation of posts DEMANDS censorship.
<blockquote>Maintaining the restriction in the face of such sincere oppostition isn't courtesy. Not common sense either.</blockquote>
I would have to absolutely agree with you on this one. I have already expressed to steve that I am willing to follow whatever path he chooses to determine permanent guest access, BUT DO SOMETHING!
<blockquote>Nor did your strict rules and better moderation prevent it.</blockquote>
I was wondering about this myself. It seems that certain posters have an almost carte-blanche approval to post whatever the want without their posts being edited or rejected. Maybe I'm wrong but it sure "seems" that way.
<blockquote>So why are POs barred? Simple question.</blockquote>
I can't wait to hear the answer to this one. Especially in the case of DP1 who, while being adamantly against sex offenses, has been one of the greatest sources of information for RSO's that visit this site.
<blockquote>Brutal, that's what they are.</blockquote>
man is that the understatement of the day.......
<blockquote>Will you bar me from The Other Side if such a scenario plays out in there and I'm the one telling the guy to quit his denial and own up to his responsibility?</blockquote>
If so, he'll be banning me right along with you for the same reason.
<blockquote>I do however find it ironic that on a board where the RSOs are regularly referred to as mangy dogs, scum of the earth, monsters, trash, baby-rapers and far worse terms by quite a few posters that you would have the gall to say you want those same people to be spared having their feelings hurt.</blockquote>
Nice. I was thinking the same thing. The sad part is, most offenders that are activly posting on the web about the SO issues have pretty thick skins. Sure some things can get to us (a good example was DP1's "real life" thread which hit me like a runaway freight train) but as a general rule, we are tough enough to take it.
<blockquote>If I want to voice my opinion on WHY a poster shouldn't be in The Other Side I'll do it right out there in the open where they can read it. If it hurts their feelings, maybe they'll take note and change</blockquote>
LMAO, I think the truth here is that steve is trying to protect the feelings of the non-RSO's.
<blockquote>That's a good one. A private forum to debate the merits of people, but its moderated. Now just HOW do you expect the RSOs to speak their minds amongst themselves about potential participants if you're rejecting every other post as a "personal attack" on said potential participant? </blockquote>
ROTFLMAO, NICE.... I hadn't even thought of this one.
<blockquote>Sure they are. </blockquote>
Sorry Orolan, but you are wrong here. Steve specifically gave us (RSO's) the authority to "invite" participation from anyone we desire to reply. I agree, it's a real PITA, but it does work.

Thread

166878, steve, Nov 08, 2005 04:25 AM
      166880, dp1, Nov 08, 2005 04:52 AM
            166882, steve, Nov 08, 2005 05:00 AM
                  166887, dp1, Nov 08, 2005 05:14 AM
                        166906, steve, Nov 08, 2005 02:25 PM
                              166911, dp1, Nov 08, 2005 03:08 PM
                                    166937, steve, Nov 08, 2005 07:47 PM
                                          167083, dp1, Nov 10, 2005 05:02 PM
                              167286, poetsdreamscape, Nov 15, 2005 02:01 AM [hog wash]
      166891, Scaye, Nov 08, 2005 05:31 AM
            166912, dp1, Nov 08, 2005 03:29 PM
                  166977, amberleaf, Nov 09, 2005 04:45 AM
                        167076, dp1, Nov 10, 2005 04:27 PM
      166916, rabbitreborn, Nov 08, 2005 04:31 PM
            166983, dp1, Nov 09, 2005 02:30 PM
      166917, orolan, Nov 08, 2005 04:56 PM
            166938, steve, Nov 08, 2005 07:52 PM
                  167035, orolan, Nov 10, 2005 02:23 AM
                        167074, dp1, Nov 10, 2005 04:03 PM
                              167269, rabbitreborn, Nov 14, 2005 02:02 PM
            166948, rabbitreborn, Nov 08, 2005 08:38 PM
            166978, dp1, Nov 09, 2005 04:55 AM
                  167068, rabbitreborn, Nov 10, 2005 02:28 PM
                        167073, dp1, Nov 10, 2005 03:52 PM
                        167141, rodsmith, Nov 11, 2005 03:33 PM
                        167148, amberleaf, Nov 11, 2005 08:48 PM [Steve]
                              167273, dp1, Nov 14, 2005 02:20 PM
                  167079, dp1, Nov 10, 2005 04:38 PM
                        167156, orolan, Nov 11, 2005 10:29 PM
                        167235, amberleaf, Nov 12, 2005 11:59 PM
      166958, Rejected
            167033, Rejected
            167061, Rejected
      167092, Renunciation, Nov 10, 2005 05:37 PM
            167155, orolan, Nov 11, 2005 10:25 PM
                  167267, rebel51, Nov 14, 2005 12:15 PM
                        167312, rabbitreborn, Nov 15, 2005 02:09 PM
            167218, Rejected
                  167339, Rejected
            167271, dp1, Nov 14, 2005 02:06 PM [Renny]
                  167360, Renunciation, Nov 15, 2005 05:51 PM
                        167375, PVulcan, Nov 15, 2005 10:25 PM
                        167380, dp1, Nov 15, 2005 10:53 PM [Rensterama]
                        167381, orolan, Nov 15, 2005 11:17 PM
      167230, Rejected
      167820, orolan, Nov 22, 2005 05:01 PM [Response to "Real Life Story"]
            167859, rabbitreborn, Nov 22, 2005 09:13 PM
                  167904, orolan, Nov 23, 2005 04:24 AM
                        168216, steve, Nov 29, 2005 06:38 PM
                              168248, rabbitreborn, Nov 29, 2005 10:25 PM
                                    168334, steve, Dec 01, 2005 01:25 AM
                                          168369, rabbitreborn, Dec 01, 2005 02:40 PM
                              168376, dp1, Dec 01, 2005 03:44 PM
                                    168484, orolan, Dec 03, 2005 02:21 AM
            167899, amberleaf, Nov 23, 2005 01:55 AM
                  167938, orolan, Nov 24, 2005 02:56 AM
                        168002, amberleaf, Nov 25, 2005 08:36 AM
                              168051, orolan, Nov 26, 2005 02:18 AM
                        168133, rabbitreborn, Nov 28, 2005 02:21 PM
                              168206, dp1, Nov 29, 2005 02:26 PM
                                    168278, Rejected

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