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Message 174596 (In Reply to Message 174577)

Posted by darkstar on Mar 25, 2006 05:40 PM | Also by darkstar

Gender: Male, Age Bracket: 40 - 49, State: Florida, Country: United States

Not all providers are the same and certainly a change might be necessary depending on the circumstances. Perhaps we should be asking about why it appears this person is still in therapy instead of assuming it MUST be the therapist instead of the patient.

It is a given fact that with this particular therapist, you don't get out either until your probation is finished, or you sue in court. I don't know how it is in other States, but here we have to pay for the therapy ourselves. So who wants to give up a captive source of income?

I have completed all requirements for the group, read all 3 books in "phase 1", did my reports, and passed all my polygraphs. Went to "phase 2", finished my book and report for that phase and passed my final polygraph but "with issues". This is where the new polygrapher comes in. I asked the therapist, "if you review the video and see him extorting me, will this clear the "issue" up?" He agreed but magically the poligrapher "lost" the video due to a "technical malfunction". As the therapist said "Who should anyone believe, you or him?" I'm sure if I lost something like that I'd be charged with something. The "issue" was me saying I looked at pornography (which I didn't say but was in the report) Even though I passed when answering that question in the negative.

There is a reason that the Dept. of Naval Intelligence discontinued polygrapghs. Some of the faults cited were with the poligraphers and some cited with the psychology of them. If you want to know how polygraphs really work, please look it up. It has little to do with truth and more to do with your reaction which could mean many things.

As far as reporting that PO to a higher authority:
If there is one thing I have learned in probation, it's NOT to challenge anything. One SO got a court order to travel for business and the dept. head at probation still said he couldn't go. He said to the probationer "I'm gonna get you now." because he was mad that he got a Judge to over rule him. You wouldn't believe what this guy is like unless you witness it yourselves. He's a complete Nazi that works outside the bounds of anyone orders or any law and no one cares. What I am seeing now is a lot of authoroties getting drunk on power and having a ball abusing it knowing there are no consequences when it comes to sex offenders.

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Message 174577

Posted by dp1 on Mar 24, 2006 04:30 PM | Also by dp1

Gender: Female, Age Bracket: N/A, State: Florida, Country: United States

<blockquote>You've been on probation these past seven years, traveled in your job, and now suddenly are told you can't? Sounds like you need to take that one to the judge.</blockquote>

The travel policy changed this year. Coincidently, most of the changes were as a result of lax standards which resulted in a sex offender leaving the county who got in trouble for attempting to contact children at a park. There are still some issues pending as a result of this case so I can't go into more detail, but the point is there was a reason to tighten up on the policies. The Court can over rule the policy.

<blockquote>Polygraphs are voodoo and the polygraphers are quacks. But a question for you. Are you STILL in sex offender treatment after 7 years? You should have long since completed treatment. Perhaps it's time you found a different provider?</blockquote>

Not all providers are the same and certainly a change might be necessary depending on the circumstances. Perhaps we should be asking about why it appears this person is still in therapy instead of assuming it MUST be the therapist instead of the patient.

<blockquote>Warrantless searches have been a part of sex offender probation in your state for quite some time. It isn't a "new" policy.</blockquote>

Warrantless searches have been a standard condition of supervision for quite some time; however, emphasis on doing them with more frequency is the recent trend.

<blockquote>They can't GPS you if your conviction and sentence predates the law. Which yours does by a good 6 1/2 years. If they put one on you, you need to get a lawyer and sue the crap out of them.</blockquote>

Calm down Orolan. It depends. Some circuits in the state have a standard condition in regards to electronic monitoring where the language clearly states it's authorized by the Court and DOC discretion. Further, he might be talking about recent VOPs. Yes, the RSOs being violated and revoked now are getting GPS'd.

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174531, darkstar, Mar 19, 2006 08:40 AM
      174553, orolan, Mar 23, 2006 09:37 PM
            174577, dp1, Mar 24, 2006 04:30 PM
                  174596, darkstar, Mar 25, 2006 05:40 PM
                        174630, Pending Further Review
      174558, poetsdreamscape, Mar 24, 2006 03:23 AM [Timothy McVie Fan club]
            174566, 1dadof5, Mar 24, 2006 06:32 AM [darkstar]
            174580, dp1, Mar 24, 2006 04:46 PM [Poet]
                  174591, rodsmith, Mar 25, 2006 04:24 AM [dp1]
                        174632, Pending Further Review
                  174594, poetsdreamscape, Mar 25, 2006 11:05 AM [dp1]
      174570, dp1, Mar 24, 2006 02:30 PM [darkstar]
      174576, fireflybabe, Mar 24, 2006 04:26 PM [I'm married to a SO]
      174581, dp1, Mar 24, 2006 04:52 PM [darkstar]
            174592, rodsmith, Mar 25, 2006 04:27 AM [dp1]
                  174631, Pending Further Review
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