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Forum: The Other Side
Thread (Discussion): Oregon and Wyoming
Message 173909
They say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one!
Posted by june5
on Feb 27, 2006 07:32 AM | Also by june5
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From what I can gather from my hero Bill O'Reilly (lol) Oregon and Wyoming are "notoriously lenient" on RSO's. I looked up Oregon's Megan's Law, and it looks like they are only putting "violent predators" on the website. Everybody else you would have to know their name and call in to find out if they are on the registry. To me it sounds like paradise!
I wonder if this will last--does anybody have any info about these states?
In Oregon the current statute states that a first-time offender can apply to be removed from the registry after they have been released from probation for at least ten years.
Does anybody know how this works if you moved to Oregon from a state that has a 25-year registry? Would Oregon just hold you to the 25 years?
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Message 174036 (In Reply to Message 173909)
no
Posted by poetsdreamscape
on Mar 01, 2006 06:49 AM | Also by poetsdreamscape
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your sentence doesnt change because you move to another state.if your state of conviction requires lifetime it carries to the state you move to. You can not go by the fact some states are more lenient then others at this stage as laws are changing all over the place and you may have to be posted in that state when they decide.
Im not sure why you are worried about being on the website anyway. First of all anyone can find out if they so choose by doing a criminal back ground check. The website offers really nothing at all to worry about. Most people don't view it. It is when there is an incident that sparks an interest that those sites get the so called hits. Even then the count is not accurate since those hits can be multiple times from one person.
I am not understanding why you are worried about it. Rather then waste your time with that you should accept the fact that at some point it will be there and focus instead on putting your life togther with prepardness for all scenerios. From what I get from your posts you are trying to run from something rather then hit it head on and move forward in life. Spending time trying to hide is waste of time. Spend the time to change the laws , minds and hearts of people and you'll be less stressful. One other thing that will help you in life is if you learn how to file lawsuits. It's not hard and can be rewarding. It is better to fight then it is to run.
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Message 174054 (In Reply to Message 174036)
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Posted by rodsmith
on Mar 01, 2006 03:33 PM | Also by rodsmith
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that's me...i havent' moved from anywehere i am just doing my thing and enjoying my life...as long as people leave me alone i will leave them alone.....they come on my property acting stupid..well i have lots of acerage for graves....as for law suits..those are easy...
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Message 174084 (In Reply to Message 173909)
Posted by orolan
on Mar 01, 2006 08:31 PM | Also by orolan
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Does anybody know how this works if you moved to Oregon from a state that has a 25-year registry? Would Oregon just hold you to the 25 years?
Odds are they would not. The statutes are vague. I did see though that the option to petition for removal is NOT available to offenders from other states. Only those convicted IN Oregon are given the privilege. So that isn't a good place to move to.
As for Blowhard O'Reilly, you know he's glad they're lenient with drug offenses where he lives:-))
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Message 174138 (In Reply to Message 174036)
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Posted by june5
on Mar 02, 2006 06:54 AM | Also by june5
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You are right, I am trying to run from something rather than just face it. I am in a really bad spot with the career path I have chosen. I am almost done with school now. I can see how that could seem exagerrated, but you just have to trust me on this one! But regardless, yes, I do have to face it. My husband is very concerned about being on the internet. He is devastated by it. I told him the same thing, nothing you can do about it, so you might as well live with it, but it is hard.
I know it would show up on a background check, but anyone who ever met my husband would not be thinking, " I need to do a background check on this guy." Contrary to what Val thinks!
You know what, trying to hide is a big waste of my time, and I know it. Believe me, when I get settled into my career and it doesn't matter anymore, I don't care if they print my husband's status on the front page of the newspaper! But until then...well, I'm just trying to figure out what I can do to make all this easier, if possible.
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Message 174168 (In Reply to Message 174084)
june
Posted by 1dadof5
on Mar 02, 2006 04:13 PM | Also by 1dadof5
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hey, i wouldnt worry about where the best place to move is at this point. The facts are what they are. your husband has made the imfamous "list". Whats done is done. What is important is that you do all the things that "big brother" asks of you/him. getting through probation/supervision will be the toughestf or him as virtually everything will be scrutinized. You will hav no freedom at all and thats the way that is. You have to be above reproach andbe a betterperson thn those who will seek to cause you problems. He will, however have to make the right choices in finding a job with a place tht is going to accept him. My tennant who is a sex offender has told me that honesty works quite well and sets up a good foundation for true opportunities and advancement.
Dont try to run. Face this head on and be strong.
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Message 174200 (In Reply to Message 173909)
June
Posted by poetsdreamscape
on Mar 03, 2006 06:34 PM | Also by poetsdreamscape
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He has a better chance of being exposed on a background check then he does the registry. It's a given that many people don't use the registries.
There are many ways to make life easier but I wont get to detailed into that since an open forum is not the place to do it as it can be counter productive.There are many working against us but I can assure you that there are networks if you look hard enough that can help you over come a lot of the problems with the registration laws.
One of the things that i tell the people I volunteer with is carefully choose where you live. It is always best to find a place that is so family oriented to start with where much of the concern isn't as prevailant as places that have a lot of kids. There are many adult comunities available to start with. Also start your own business.There are many things that you can do.
Once he is no longer involved with LE there are ways to virtualy disapear other then the registry. Once no longer involved in the system it is very easy to go on with life and succeed. There are ways to remove any trace or contact information about you that the only place you can be identified is on the registry. A lot of this is common knowledge to those who have been around and work with offenders and at some point you will figure it out.
As for your husband the best thing for him to do is to learn the laws of the state you will be living in so as not to violate his terms and conditions. It is also very important thathe learn how to file suits. This will enable him to over come a lot of the issues that he will face and still be able to gain finacially from it to off set any set backs.
Alot of the laws don't require an attorney. Once you have the knowledge to file suit then it becomes even easier to challenge anything youmay encounter. this is even more important to learn then to focus on the registries.
I also suggest that both of you seek counciling on a regular basis as this will help him to get through the system a lot easier.
As long as he does what he is suppose to shows respect and a positive attitude towards those he has to deal with everything else will be on his side. His P.O. depending on his relationship can also be a great source of reference for a job if he has a good rep with them.
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Message 174211 (In Reply to Message 174168)
Dad is right!
Posted by Renunciation
on Mar 03, 2006 08:12 PM | Also by Renunciation
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I have been trying out the whole up front honesty thing.
People stumble, stammer and react in shock when a man looks them in the eye or says frankly over the phone:
"Before you consider hiring me, I must tell you I am a felon, on probation, and I am a sex offender. It is not my badge of honor, in fact I am downright ashamed of it, but if you give me the chance, i will be the mst loyal employee you ever had."
Not getting the jobs, lol, but it sure feels better than hiding under a rock of shame hoping no one finds out.
Ren
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Message 174246 (In Reply to Message 174200)
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Posted by june5
on Mar 04, 2006 01:34 AM | Also by june5
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Actually, I ran a background check through the State Police, and his name comes up as no arrest, no record. I know that seems impossible, but I ran another one and nothing came up. So far the only thing he shows up on is the SO Registry.
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Message 174247 (In Reply to Message 174168)
Thanks
Posted by june5
on Mar 04, 2006 01:46 AM | Also by june5
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All of your posts really got me thinking. My husband had 2 jobs within a month of being released from jail. Unfortunately he lost his previous job while in jail, but at least he was able to get on his feet quickly. His PO has been to our house one time and never calls. He reports, gets drug tested, pays his fines and works, so I guess that is why she is leaving him alone. We don't have the predator statutes in my state, just the registry. He was a first-time offender with a contact offense, so I don't think he'd be subject to community notification if the law here does change. We haven't had any "concerned neighbors" come to our door either, although I assure you that they would be quite sorry if they did. So I guess my point is that it could be worse, and I wasn't really thinking that way until I saw all of these posts referring to problems that I luckily don't have. Thanks.
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Message 174545 (In Reply to Message 173909)
Posted by Ruined
on Mar 23, 2006 02:35 AM | Also by Ruined
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I was convicted of Possession in Canada. I live in PA. No probation, parole, and nothing from Ontario saying I have to register.
But, because I live in PA, I am on a list for 10 years.
Any ideas what would happen if I moved to a more lenient state?
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Message 174554 (In Reply to Message 174545)
Posted by orolan
on Mar 23, 2006 09:39 PM | Also by orolan
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Any ideas what would happen if I moved to a more lenient state?
There is no such thing. Megan's Law mandated a minimum of ten years registration, so there are no states with a shorter term. Only longer.
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173909, june5, Feb 27, 2006 07:32 AM [They say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one!]
174036, poetsdreamscape, Mar 01, 2006 06:49 AM [no]
174054, rodsmith, Mar 01, 2006 03:33 PM [poet]
174138, june5, Mar 02, 2006 06:54 AM [Poet]
174084, orolan, Mar 01, 2006 08:31 PM
174168, 1dadof5, Mar 02, 2006 04:13 PM [june]
174211, Renunciation, Mar 03, 2006 08:12 PM [Dad is right!]
174247, june5, Mar 04, 2006 01:46 AM [Thanks]
174200, poetsdreamscape, Mar 03, 2006 06:34 PM [June]
174246, june5, Mar 04, 2006 01:34 AM [Poet]
174326, Pending Further Review
174545, Ruined, Mar 23, 2006 02:35 AM
174554, orolan, Mar 23, 2006 09:39 PM
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