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Message 161965 (In Reply to Message 160622)
Iran

Posted by Renunciation on Sep 18, 2005 05:06 PM | Also by Renunciation

Gender: N/A, Age Bracket: 40 - 49, State: N/A, Country: Bahrain

Getting info to/from there has been tough.

However, my contacts, (only 2) tell me some bitter sweet things about Iran.

Former american SOs would be welcomed there but they must bring a significant contribution to the needs of the nation.

Former Americans will mostlikely never reach top positions in business.

Technical positions earning 2000-5000 US per month abound, especially in the nuclear and power fields.

Former US Air Force and Navy Missile techs who are now RSOs should seriously consider Iran as anew home. You would be treated very well, much much better than you can ever be expected to be treated in the United States of America.

Iran is also very interested in expanding and improving its rail infrastructure and anyone with heavy diesel, railway and generator experience should consider Iran as a new and wonderful home. General Electric, via non-US offices may soon replenish Iran with over 100 Engines and 500 wagons(cars). GE already sells gas turbines to Iran from its France office.

Family conditions in Iran are much better as well. Your children will not be outcasts in the schools, which by the way are VERY good. Iranians are not fools, and you can expect your child to get a good education and not be burdened with the stigmas of your RSO status or the problem of social status being more important than math homework.

Wives of RSOs will have to follow some modesty rules, but women in Iran are permitted, no, expected to work to provide for the greater good of their nation. Educated American women, wives of RSOs, would be the best way to get the family there!

Kish is going to be the next Dubai, and if you can get there fast enough, you might establish yourself in a nice place and be allowed to live out your life in relative peace, away from the United States and the hysteria that drives people to print out a public list and kill you and you family if they are close. Americans want to kill your kids because you are a RSO, so there is no safety for your children anymore.

Of course the down side to Iran is the posturing the United States is doing to convince the masses that the US needs to "spread peace and democracy" to Iran in the near future. When you are handed a rifle and asked to defend your home against American Marines coming to "set you free," it might be tough to pull the trigger.

The upside of Iran is that the world doesnt seem to fussed about finding new ways of moving our big butts from place to place, so oil will still be a vital commodity and Iran is VERY cash strong right now and there is no reason to think that will change soon.

China and Russia will protect Iran, so if the US decides to "free" the Iranian people, it will not be easy.

Iran is not Grenada, Beirut, Tripoli, Panama, Mogudishu(sp), Liberia, Colombia, or Iraq. Iraq was friendless, Iran is not. Sooner or later the US will go too far.

Does America think the 560,000 RSOs being listed here are going to help defend the US borders? HA, quite unlikely. American can "fend for themselves." LOL

Next: Colombia/Venezuela

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Message 160622
Introduction to Thread

Posted by Renunciation on Sep 04, 2005 11:07 PM | Also by Renunciation

Gender: N/A, Age Bracket: 40 - 49, State: N/A, Country: Bahrain

I know SOs and their families in the United States are attached to their country, the times are changing and the basic right of a safe and secure life in the United States, following the payment of their debt to society, is gone for many and going for all.

Society sets certain punishements for certain crimes. Criminals pay that debt and are supposed to be able to move about freely and able to rebuild thier lives.

Sex offenders and those that love them have lost or are about to lose that right. The children of sex offenders are being severely abused by the citizens of the United States. The souses and friends of sex offenders are being shunned and humiliated by the citizens of the United States.

I have mentioned often about the option of leaving the United States AFTER the punishment phase of our crimes are served.

This move is not for everybody. In fact, I predict less than 1-3% of sex offenders have the inclination to leave and even fewer have the means or the resolve. This thread is not for those who wish to stay. This thread is for those who are interested in leaving, with their families and/or friends and renouncing their citizenship.

There is little limit on the amount of criticism that can be directed at me or this idea. I only ask that the reader(s) keep an open mind and a free their imaginations enough to consider 2010 United States with 2010 in any of the nations studied. Many nations will not allow SOs to visit, much less immigrate, others are not so enslaved to the blind and ignorant fury of the typical "pee in the pants" American.

If you do not like this option, you are not compelled to use it, or to read these posts. If you have information that canbenefit those who may consider this option, please share. My research is not all-knowing, my information is not 100% verified. I try to make unofficial contact with citizens of the nations I examine to gauge the "feel" for this plan.

There are several things must be done well before trying this option.

1. You must be clear with the IRS. I am not, but working on it. 
2. You must not have support arrears. I do, but working on it. 
3. You must openly and seriously discuss this with your spouses and children. This move is not reversable. Once you burn your passport, you will not be coming back. 
4. You must make sure you have gotten the required counseling and be sure you are not doing this to renew your "supply" of victims. Most nations that will accept you will kill you if you offend there. Interestingly enough, the nations that will not accept you have lighter sentences than the US in many cases, Canada and the UK for example. 
5. Never, no matter your true intentions, state in any media, digital, phone, written or orally, that you intend to renounce your citizenship to take up arms against the United States. If you are conscripted by your new nation, then that is your duty, but you should not express that you are leaving to become an enemy. I was recently spanked for some of my implications in this matter, though I may talk big, I doubt I could actually kill Americans unless they are trying to kill me. Since I usually do everything half arsed, I would probably forget one step of being a suicide bomber and mess it up. hehehe.

Anyway.... here goes.

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160622, Renunciation, Sep 04, 2005 11:07 PM [Introduction to Thread]
      160695, amberleaf, Sep 06, 2005 01:41 AM
      160769, indisaray, Sep 06, 2005 06:39 PM
            160852, orolan, Sep 07, 2005 02:23 PM
                  162182, saintjimmy, Sep 20, 2005 05:56 PM
                        162323, orolan, Sep 21, 2005 09:28 PM
                              162326, Renunciation, Sep 21, 2005 09:46 PM
      160861, Renunciation, Sep 07, 2005 05:02 PM [Angola]
            160896, orolan, Sep 08, 2005 01:03 AM
                  160956, Renunciation, Sep 08, 2005 04:29 PM
                        161085, orolan, Sep 09, 2005 10:37 PM
                              161158, Renunciation, Sep 11, 2005 05:06 AM
                                    162183, saintjimmy, Sep 20, 2005 05:58 PM
      160924, Draco, Sep 08, 2005 06:10 AM [I agree]
      161396, Renunciation, Sep 13, 2005 04:35 PM [Belize and Costa Rica]
      161965, Renunciation, Sep 18, 2005 05:06 PM [Iran]
            161980, brennus, Sep 18, 2005 08:12 PM
                  161983, Renunciation, Sep 18, 2005 11:19 PM
                        161996, steve, Sep 19, 2005 02:57 AM
                              162102, orolan, Sep 20, 2005 02:06 AM
                                    162105, Valerie, Sep 20, 2005 03:01 AM
                                          162149, orolan, Sep 20, 2005 02:47 PM
                                                162174, PVulcan, Sep 20, 2005 05:21 PM
                                          162159, Navigatr1, Sep 20, 2005 03:12 PM
                                          162184, saintjimmy, Sep 20, 2005 06:02 PM
                        163562, oicu812, Oct 05, 2005 04:18 AM
      162119, anonymous45654, Sep 20, 2005 11:53 AM [Suggestion]
            162173, Renunciation, Sep 20, 2005 05:20 PM
                  162257, Valerie, Sep 21, 2005 02:03 PM
                        162305, Renunciation, Sep 21, 2005 04:48 PM
                        163437, saintjimmy, Oct 04, 2005 07:49 AM
                  163564, oicu812, Oct 05, 2005 04:35 AM
                        163593, Renunciation, Oct 05, 2005 05:23 PM
                              163667, oicu812, Oct 06, 2005 02:29 PM
            163563, oicu812, Oct 05, 2005 04:33 AM
                  163590, saintjimmy, Oct 05, 2005 05:05 PM
                        163669, oicu812, Oct 06, 2005 02:31 PM
                              163744, saintjimmy, Oct 07, 2005 04:54 AM
                  163594, Renunciation, Oct 05, 2005 05:26 PM
                  163628, orolan, Oct 06, 2005 12:58 AM
                        163634, Renunciation, Oct 06, 2005 02:13 AM
                              166509, orolan, Nov 05, 2005 02:34 AM
                        163671, oicu812, Oct 06, 2005 02:34 PM
                              166479, rodsmith, Nov 04, 2005 05:17 PM
                                    166520, Renunciation, Nov 05, 2005 04:17 AM
      169945, Renunciation, Dec 23, 2005 04:13 PM [Another Rescource]
      171467, Renunciation, Jan 17, 2006 07:28 PM [Employment Discrimination Update]
            171483, rodsmith, Jan 17, 2006 11:08 PM [renunciation]
            171486, orolan, Jan 18, 2006 01:47 AM
                  171537, Renunciation, Jan 18, 2006 05:16 PM

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