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Forum: The Other Side

Thread (Discussion): Examinations of Alternative Citizenships

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Message 160622
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Posted by Renunciation on Sep 04, 2005 11:07 PM | Also by Renunciation
Gender: N/A, Age Bracket: 40 - 49, State: N/A, Country: Bahrain
I know SOs and their families in the United States are attached to their country, the times are changing and the basic right of a safe and secure life in the United States, following the payment of their debt to society, is gone for many and going for all.

Society sets certain punishements for certain crimes. Criminals pay that debt and are supposed to be able to move about freely and able to rebuild thier lives.

Sex offenders and those that love them have lost or are about to lose that right. The children of sex offenders are being severely abused by the citizens of the United States. The souses and friends of sex offenders are being shunned and humiliated by the citizens of the United States.

I have mentioned often about the option of leaving the United States AFTER the punishment phase of our crimes are served.

This move is not for everybody. In fact, I predict less than 1-3% of sex offenders have the inclination to leave and even fewer have the means or the resolve. This thread is not for those who wish to stay. This thread is for those who are interested in leaving, with their families and/or friends and renouncing their citizenship.

There is little limit on the amount of criticism that can be directed at me or this idea. I only ask that the reader(s) keep an open mind and a free their imaginations enough to consider 2010 United States with 2010 in any of the nations studied. Many nations will not allow SOs to visit, much less immigrate, others are not so enslaved to the blind and ignorant fury of the typical "pee in the pants" American.

If you do not like this option, you are not compelled to use it, or to read these posts. If you have information that canbenefit those who may consider this option, please share. My research is not all-knowing, my information is not 100% verified. I try to make unofficial contact with citizens of the nations I examine to gauge the "feel" for this plan.

There are several things must be done well before trying this option.

1. You must be clear with the IRS. I am not, but working on it.
2. You must not have support arrears. I do, but working on it.
3. You must openly and seriously discuss this with your spouses and children. This move is not reversable. Once you burn your passport, you will not be coming back.
4. You must make sure you have gotten the required counseling and be sure you are not doing this to renew your "supply" of victims. Most nations that will accept you will kill you if you offend there. Interestingly enough, the nations that will not accept you have lighter sentences than the US in many cases, Canada and the UK for example.
5. Never, no matter your true intentions, state in any media, digital, phone, written or orally, that you intend to renounce your citizenship to take up arms against the United States. If you are conscripted by your new nation, then that is your duty, but you should not express that you are leaving to become an enemy. I was recently spanked for some of my implications in this matter, though I may talk big, I doubt I could actually kill Americans unless they are trying to kill me. Since I usually do everything half arsed, I would probably forget one step of being a suicide bomber and mess it up. hehehe.

Anyway.... here goes.

See an abbreviation or acronym, but don't know what it stands for? Consult the Glossary.

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160622, Renunciation, Sep 04, 2005 11:07 PM [Introduction to Thread]
      160695, amberleaf, Sep 06, 2005 01:41 AM
      160769, indisaray, Sep 06, 2005 06:39 PM
            160852, orolan, Sep 07, 2005 02:23 PM
                  162182, saintjimmy, Sep 20, 2005 05:56 PM
                        162323, orolan, Sep 21, 2005 09:28 PM
                              162326, Renunciation, Sep 21, 2005 09:46 PM
      160861, Renunciation, Sep 07, 2005 05:02 PM [Angola]
            160896, orolan, Sep 08, 2005 01:03 AM
                  160956, Renunciation, Sep 08, 2005 04:29 PM
                        161085, orolan, Sep 09, 2005 10:37 PM
                              161158, Renunciation, Sep 11, 2005 05:06 AM
                                    162183, saintjimmy, Sep 20, 2005 05:58 PM
      160924, Draco, Sep 08, 2005 06:10 AM [I agree]
      161396, Renunciation, Sep 13, 2005 04:35 PM [Belize and Costa Rica]
      161965, Renunciation, Sep 18, 2005 05:06 PM [Iran]
            161980, brennus, Sep 18, 2005 08:12 PM
                  161983, Renunciation, Sep 18, 2005 11:19 PM
                        161996, steve, Sep 19, 2005 02:57 AM
                              162102, orolan, Sep 20, 2005 02:06 AM
                                    162105, Valerie, Sep 20, 2005 03:01 AM
                                          162149, orolan, Sep 20, 2005 02:47 PM
                                                162174, PVulcan, Sep 20, 2005 05:21 PM
                                          162159, Navigatr1, Sep 20, 2005 03:12 PM
                                          162184, saintjimmy, Sep 20, 2005 06:02 PM
                        163562, oicu812, Oct 05, 2005 04:18 AM
      162119, anonymous45654, Sep 20, 2005 11:53 AM [Suggestion]
            162173, Renunciation, Sep 20, 2005 05:20 PM
                  162257, Valerie, Sep 21, 2005 02:03 PM
                        162305, Renunciation, Sep 21, 2005 04:48 PM
                        163437, saintjimmy, Oct 04, 2005 07:49 AM
                  163564, oicu812, Oct 05, 2005 04:35 AM
                        163593, Renunciation, Oct 05, 2005 05:23 PM
                              163667, oicu812, Oct 06, 2005 02:29 PM
            163563, oicu812, Oct 05, 2005 04:33 AM
                  163590, saintjimmy, Oct 05, 2005 05:05 PM
                        163669, oicu812, Oct 06, 2005 02:31 PM
                              163744, saintjimmy, Oct 07, 2005 04:54 AM
                  163594, Renunciation, Oct 05, 2005 05:26 PM
                  163628, orolan, Oct 06, 2005 12:58 AM
                        163634, Renunciation, Oct 06, 2005 02:13 AM
                              166509, orolan, Nov 05, 2005 02:34 AM
                        163671, oicu812, Oct 06, 2005 02:34 PM
                              166479, rodsmith, Nov 04, 2005 05:17 PM
                                    166520, Renunciation, Nov 05, 2005 04:17 AM
      169945, Renunciation, Dec 23, 2005 04:13 PM [Another Rescource]
      171467, Renunciation, Jan 17, 2006 07:28 PM [Employment Discrimination Update]
            171483, rodsmith, Jan 17, 2006 11:08 PM [renunciation]
            171486, orolan, Jan 18, 2006 01:47 AM
                  171537, Renunciation, Jan 18, 2006 05:16 PM
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