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Message 137236 (In Reply to Message 136768)

Posted by WalkingTheLine on Jul 10, 2004 11:19 PM | Also by WalkingTheLine

Gender: Male, Age Bracket: 30 - 39, State: Florida, Country: United States

Do you happen to work in Jacksonville, dp1? I might have to request you as my probation officer. :) If mine had the kinds of open dialogues you've talked about on here, I wouldn't consider interaction with him to be such a burdensome process.

I have a question for you. I also asked Silverthorne the same thing. While I understand we all have sexual preferences, what is stopping you from having sex with adults? Do you prefer males or females or both? Were all your victims about the same age and sex or is there a variety?

Although the question wasn't directed at me, I've had my therapist ask me this one before. Going in reverse order, I'm oriented exclusively towards preteen and early teen males, and all three of my past relationships (I'm still not swayed enough to use the term 'victims' to describe them) were with males of that age group. When I say "oriented", I mean (without getting too graphic) that what I find physically attractive about a person is found almost always in males of that age (there are people with pan-hypopituitarism, essentially adults in prepubescent bodies, but aside from being virtually unfindable, it seems so crass to turn around and say, 'Hey, your disease makes you attractive to me, wanna go out?') This is not to say that the physical is all that matters, but it is, if you'll pardon the expression, what seperates the men from the boys.

There's nothing "stopping" me from having sex with adults, just like there's nothing stopping you from having sex with women. And I'd probably enjoy it to a certain extent, too - any sex causes pleasure, a fact which makes forced sex all the more damaging to victims of it. However I don't believe in casual sex, or any sex outside of the context of a romantic relationship, and I would feel morally affronted at the idea of "using" an adult merely for sexual gratification. And I wouldn't be able to feel the "bond" of that relationship - whatever spiritual and emotional connection beyond words comes from true, deep love with a partner. Why not? No idea. Of course, I wish I could - it would make life a lot easier. While on probation, I have been attempting to seek out relationships with adult males. I find that it is possible for me to find some 18-23 year old males attractive, although I think I might be going through something akin to "submarine syndrome." I won't know that for sure until I'm off probation, whereupon hopefully I'll have an adult partner and I can see whether things change.

However, in DP1's fantasy world if they outlawed sex with men and sex with children remained illegal, I suppose I'd have to try women.

That's so hard for me to understand. Why would you allow the law to maintain that much control over you? If the law required you to round up sex offenders for mass execution, would you still respect legal authority? At what point does a law demand resistance?

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Message 136768
Jake

Posted by dp1 on Jul 01, 2004 04:00 AM | Also by dp1

Gender: Female, Age Bracket: N/A, State: Florida, Country: United States

I'd like to ask some questions for clarification. You mentioned that your therapist does not think you are an exclusive pedophile which you don't agree with. Does your therapist mean that you can also have a sexually gratifying relationship with an adult?

You also question about being a pedophile who has never acted out. Silverthorne is a regular poster on this board who's been diagnosed with pedophilia and states that he's never acted on his desires, although he's had some close calls according to some of his posts. Just as a side note, Silverthorne has not posted much lately becuase of his recent cancer treatments, although within the next few weeks he should be done with his chemo. The reason I am mentioning this is because he's awesome. He's very supportive and has been in volunteer therapy for years. He has quite a story to tell. He's also fun to chat with:-) I think you guys will hit it off....just give him a few weeks to recover. He can tell you more about pedophilia then you'll ever want to know. He's also doing some graduate work in psychology and hopes to treat adult sex offenders down the road. I think Silverthorne is an excellent role model for pedophiles and most certainly would be posting to you more often right now if it weren't for his health problems.

I have a question for you. I also asked Silverthorne the same thing. While I understand we all have sexual preferences, what is stopping you from having sex with adults? Do you prefer males or females or both? Were all your victims about the same age and sex or is there a variety?

I am heterosexual 100%. I don't find women attractive AT ALL. However, in DP1's fantasy world if they outlawed sex with men and sex with children remained illegal,  I suppose I'd have to try women. Quite honestly the thought is repulsive to me, but if I had a choice of breaking the law, satisfying myself for the rest of my life or women, I suppose I'd force myself to try it.(Please don't ask me how much I'd have to drink and what I'd have to smoke to do this) Do you know what I mean?

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136765, JakeLF, Jul 01, 2004 12:42 AM [Seeking Help...]
      136768, dp1, Jul 01, 2004 04:00 AM [Jake]
            136828, Silverthorne, Jul 02, 2004 06:08 AM [Thanks DP1- Jake]
            137236, WalkingTheLine, Jul 10, 2004 11:19 PM
                  137264, dp1, Jul 11, 2004 04:03 AM [WTL]
                        137288, WalkingTheLine, Jul 11, 2004 11:45 PM
      136776, myoung, Jul 01, 2004 01:06 PM [Jake jake jake]
      136782, fallenone, Jul 01, 2004 03:34 PM
      137237, WalkingTheLine, Jul 10, 2004 11:37 PM

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