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Message 137130 (In Reply to Message 136669)
America - your standing in it

Posted by tryingtosurvive on Jul 09, 2004 01:33 PM | Also by tryingtosurvive

Gender: Male, Age Bracket: 40 - 49, State: N/A, Country: Australia

cant you think that one through ? !! It is as plain as day. One of you guys said once that he found it self evident that "the pursuit of happyness" should be part of your gig . it was a bloody good idea but most of you have filed it in the circular recepticle .. Why did you guys dis on the commonwealth in 1776 or when ever it was - face it you made a big blue . If you hadnt done that you would have a system of government that works. You wouldnt be naming laws after people. Why wont Americans stay true to the ideals they built for themselves?

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Message 136669

Posted by deadmomwalking on Jun 28, 2004 10:58 AM | Also by deadmomwalking

Gender: Female, Age Bracket: 50 - 59, State: N/A, Country: Canada

I think the point myoung and I were trying to make was that, while we (the people who inhabit the V&S corner ) took what you said at face value, Orolan made a point of saying your post was moved because it would strike too close to home for some of the "alleged victims" on that part of the board, implying that some of the victims were, like your accuser, making false accusations.  I found that insulting.  The fact is that most sexual offenders deny they have done anything wrong when they are caught (one sexual offender therapist estimates something like 90%).  That being said, we have no reason not to believe what YOU say.  It's just that often our or our children's rapists have said the same thing.

I quite agree that people who make false allegations should be punished.  As is evident from this board even if those instances are rare they are held up as examples and people generalize from those instances so that other victims with legitimate complaints are not taken seriously.  However, as I said before Silverthorne, to be fair, then,  rapists who lie about what they did should have to serve double time - one sentence for their offense and one sentence for lying.  After all by lying about what they did they are damaging the reputation of their victim.

There is a whole grey area, that would be an interesting discussion, about what exactly is consent, the difference in men's and women's viewpoint of what rape or coerced sex entails, and what is needed to establish consent (beyond age of consent).  I would be interested in hearing opinions on that.  From what I have observed men and women's view on this can be quite different.

I'll give you an example.  One of the guys where I work came in to the office and started talking about how wild one of the graduation parties at his son's school was.  Kids did various stupid things but then he told us about one girl who had been given so many drinks that she was practically comatose and how a bunch of the guys "passed her around" taking turns with her.  The guys who were in the office starting laughing, and the women stared icily.  I said, "If that story's true, it's a police matter.  How would you feel if it was your daughter who was being passed around?" The guys, who are a nice, respectable regular bunch of guys looked really sheepish and the guy who was telling the story started back-pedalling. A fairly heated discussion followed with opinions generally drawn down gender lines.

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136545, tryingtosurvive, Jun 25, 2004 01:50 PM
      136557, dp1, Jun 25, 2004 11:14 PM [To Steve]
            136564, orolan, Jun 26, 2004 03:01 AM [?????]
                  136566, dp1, Jun 26, 2004 03:14 AM
                        136569, steve, Jun 26, 2004 04:04 AM
                              136575, tryingtosurvive, Jun 26, 2004 11:42 AM [This above all - to thine ...]
                  136568, deadmomwalking, Jun 26, 2004 03:53 AM
                        136616, myoung, Jun 27, 2004 06:39 AM [dmw]
                              136625, tryingtosurvive, Jun 27, 2004 02:50 PM [PLS explain?]
                                    136636, dp1, Jun 27, 2004 09:46 PM [TTS]
                                    136655, myoung, Jun 28, 2004 02:27 AM [PLS speak english]
                                    136669, deadmomwalking, Jun 28, 2004 10:58 AM
                                          137130, tryingtosurvive, Jul 09, 2004 01:33 PM [America - your stan...]
                                                137305, deadmomwalking, Jul 12, 2004 08:45 AM
                                                      138892, tryingtosurvive, Aug 18, 2004 03:53 PM [Some clarific...]
                                                      138894, tryingtosurvive, Aug 18, 2004 04:35 PM [Issues about ...]
                                                            138963, truechange, Aug 20, 2004 01:29 PM [date]
                              136675, tryingtosurvive, Jun 28, 2004 01:48 PM [mussolini had the same pro...]
                                    136689, myoung, Jun 28, 2004 08:11 PM [don't think so]
      136664, Silverthorne, Jun 28, 2004 06:14 AM [Silverthorne's justice]
            136679, acts2413, Jun 28, 2004 03:45 PM [Silverthorne Justice to the Rescue!!! Brin...]
                  136690, myoung, Jun 28, 2004 08:14 PM [incarcerate how]
                        136695, dp1, Jun 28, 2004 11:06 PM
      136724, fallenone, Jun 29, 2004 05:30 PM [Consider yourself blessed]
      138908, truechange, Aug 19, 2004 01:30 PM [That's tough.]
      139645, swla, Sep 11, 2004 07:05 AM
            139663, dp1, Sep 12, 2004 12:59 AM
                  139666, swla, Sep 12, 2004 02:54 AM
                        139695, dp1, Sep 13, 2004 01:49 AM

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