Sex Offender Registries, Sex Offenders Search, News, Info and Discussion

Top Posters Since October 2003
dp1	4000+
orolan	4000+
Navigatr1	2500+
Silvert...	2500+
1dadof5	2500+
Valerie	2000+
steve	1500+
victori...	1000+
myoung	1000+
rabbitr...	750+
HPierce	750+
poetsdr...	750+
Renunci...	750+
lj	750+
fallenone	500+
DoTheCr...	500+
marta	500+
momhelp...	500+
prozac	500+
rebel51	500+
PVulcan	250+
anti	250+
rodsmith	250+
LockEmUp	250+
Quest	250+
artie	250+
KK	250+
LostTime	250+
TGoodman	250+
amberleaf	250+
deadmom...	250+
brennus	100+
scarlett	100+
mousein...	100+
thepar	100+
assumpt...	100+
lildrafire	100+
JakeLF	100+
MrTruth	100+
june5	100+

Newest Users
Registered within the last 72 hours.
anitatcandia
glassmarble
khf333
lisala33
marcorl
rdehne
vanessa
zxcvbnm

Forum: The Other Side

Thread (Discussion): Struggling

Switch to Flat View

In order to post a message to a new thread or reply to existing messages you must be logged in. If you'd like to post messages please login or register as a new user.

Message 136887 (In Reply to Message 136873)
F1

Posted by dp1 on Jul 04, 2004 04:31 AM | Also by dp1

Gender: Female, Age Bracket: N/A, State: Florida, Country: United States

You are still offended I question your abilities to do your job.

You’ve missed my point altogether. It’s the lack of healthy boundaries, sticking to the issues and attacking on the personal level, which causes dividing I have serious issues with.

. And I suppose you didn't go to college or you'd know almost evey college in the country makes you intern for most degrees.

And I suppose F1 aka Mr. Details hasn’t been reading or comprehending my posts; if you did you would know that I am retired military, a college graduate and a PO as my second career. It’s amazing how little in reality you actually know about me even though this information has been posted. For someone that fixates on details and on my personal issues, may I suggest getting your facts straight before you jump to illogical conclusions? Talk about contradiction……

I realize your perception of LE is totally off base because of your lack of experience. If all I had was a criminal justice major I might have distorted views of the career field also. I am surprised though how much you claim to know about details, yet you weren’t aware of the basic requirements for a PO. I also see in your profile your still in your 20’s and that explains a lot. But, immaturity doesn’t account for all the irrational conclusions and the resentment you feel towards the establishment nor does it explain your resentment towards me because you can’t get the experience as you once desired before your crime.

I also realize your knowledge in many places is quite inadequate.

My knowledge is limited to my life experiences both personal and professional as is yours and everyone else’s. I realize I post very few details about my personal life for very good reason, and I speak in general terms about probation and parole cases for obvious reasons. Either you benefit from my experiences or you don’t. I never once said I know everything about everything and I’m extremely disturbed by someone in your shoes thinking that you do. So far, all I’ve seen from you is resentment and negativity. Unfortunately, I do not benefit from your experiences because I find you are the exception. Life is not all doom and gloom. There are many successful SO’s. I have posted about some successful stories and make no bones about how many actually do get on with their lives. I do not share the grim views that you and some others on this forum tend to have.

I noticed you never objected to the numerous posts I’ve posted to or about SO’s that put them in a positive light. It’s when I share the common goal or views of “the establishment” you have issues. Were you thinking that you were going to get into LE to fight the system? To debate issues with establishment? To change the world? I find it a compliment that you recognize I do support the system and enforce laws. That is what I get paid to do.

I can understand someone thinking a PO was ill equipped to do their job if they failed to arrest someone who violated their probation, was too stupid to handcuff a dangerous offender who escaped from custody and hurt someone, or didn’t report drug abuse or contact with children to the Courts. I could even see how a PO would be considered incompetent if they failed to refer a SO to sex offender treatment or if they failed to file the registration paperwork in a timely fashion. We all make mistakes and I am not suggesting that every PO would be incompetent if the above situations occurred, but my point being is that you don’t know how many bad guys I get off the streets, how many busts I make, how many searches I do and find illegal things, how detailed my reports are and VOP conviction rate is, so on and so forth. You haven’t even read the first high profile PSI I’ve authored or any other investigation. Your assessment of my job skills is totally based on the fact that you don’t like me. You have taken my objection to you attacking my job skills in the wrong light. I already know you have no clue about the business or what I do. I object to the irrational conclusions you draw and use them to attack for your own personal agenda. Can you not see the abusive behavior I have so meticulously tried to point out?

I do not post to talk about me. I must say that I do apologize for talking about myself, but it seems appropriate to bring the point home. I suspect you will continue to needle me for personal details and attack on a personal level. I will not continue this debate any further in this forum for that reason, as it does not benefit anyone else from this point forward. I’m sorry I feel very strongly about this. Unhealthy boundaries and verbal attacks set bad examples. We are on this forum to discuss SO behavior and that is what I pointed out. I have no intentions of posting personal issues that do not pertain to the forum. If you would like to inquire about my career field because you have a genuine interest or clear up any other misperceptions you might have then feel free to PM me. I will not entertain PM’s on why you don’t like me. If you keep the boundaries healthy and professional I will respond respectfully.

See an abbreviation or acronym, but don't know what it stands for? Consult the Glossary.

Switch to Flat View

Message 136873
You're trying too hard

Posted by fallenone on Jul 03, 2004 07:45 PM | Also by fallenone

Gender: N/A, Age Bracket: N/A, State: Ohio, Country: United States

Just because someone is put in a position and works there does not necessarily mean that person has the capability to fully handle the job. There are two people working with me now who are ill suited to do the job but they are still there. And i suppose you didn't go to college or you'd know almost evey college in the country makes you intern for most degrees. What makes you think I'm unqualified to know what I'm talking about? Just because I haven't been on official DOJ payrolls? I have worked with SOs before and during prison thank you very much.

You can call my statements "backpeddling" if you so desire. Being an average human with a short time schedule I had only a few minutes to type my thoughts before rushing on to work and as such I did not have time to say all I needed to say on the subject. My time here is getting rather limited between my job, school and SOFIA. Next time I will wait until I have time to explain fully any comments I make but I back up what I say and that's that.

Actually you do "fit the mold." You have stated you are in favor of most limits on the SOs unless they cause more work for you. You had stated to me in a discussion regarding jobs SOs do not work well with people (a generalization), you are in favor of sanctions against those who could not find housing for circumstances beyond their control (don't forget that's why I started posting here), and you believe all SOs are alike and there's no cure. And after reading so much of your posts I also realize your knowledge in many places is quite inadequate. My only disappointment in regards to you comes from the latter. You've shown me as one to not get the whole story before rebuttals, one not detail-oriented. Getting the details is important but you prefer generalizations because it is easier to lump us all together as equally bad. So even if you aren't as bad in your eyes as some of the others you still are in the dark. I see also someonme has to draw your ire to get you to stand up for anything. To me you tend to contradict yourself a great deal. I don't need to meet you in public to ascertain your ability to do your job. Your words speak plenty.

You are still offended I question your abilities to do your job. Whatever. If you said I was unqualified to disect the atom I'd not be offended though I have blown a few things up. I can admit where I'm Ignorant. If you can't that's on you. The PM will come next week, by the way. It's 2:45 and I gotta go to work. The Library's closed till the 6th so you'll just have to wait.

The Fallen One

Thread

136445, JakeLF, Jun 23, 2004 06:40 AM [Its really hard]
      136466, deadmomwalking, Jun 23, 2004 07:29 PM
            136477, myoung, Jun 24, 2004 01:36 AM [it saddens me]
            136528, JakeLF, Jun 25, 2004 04:29 AM [Thanks for the response]
                  136551, myoung, Jun 25, 2004 04:10 PM [Jake]
                  136558, dp1, Jun 25, 2004 11:22 PM [Jake]
      136508, dp1, Jun 24, 2004 01:31 PM
            136688, fallenone, Jun 28, 2004 07:34 PM [Therapy doesn't cut it.]
                  136701, dp1, Jun 29, 2004 02:52 AM [Listen to What you're Saying]
                        136703, steve, Jun 29, 2004 03:17 AM
                              136722, fallenone, Jun 29, 2004 05:10 PM [An unDePendable assessment]
                                    136725, dp1, Jun 29, 2004 06:29 PM [Beautiful]
                                          136728, dp1, Jun 29, 2004 06:49 PM [Friendly Suggestion]
                                                136781, fallenone, Jul 01, 2004 03:21 PM [Get over yourself]
                                          136792, fallenone, Jul 01, 2004 06:27 PM
                                                136854, dp1, Jul 03, 2004 11:17 AM [F1]
                                                      136873, fallenone, Jul 03, 2004 07:45 PM [You're trying too hard]
                                                            136887, dp1, Jul 04, 2004 04:31 AM [F1]
                                                                  137004, fallenone, Jul 06, 2004 11:42 PM [reforming the...]
                                    136739, myoung, Jun 29, 2004 08:41 PM [F1]
                                          136740, steve, Jun 29, 2004 09:16 PM
                                          136742, dp1, Jun 29, 2004 11:49 PM [MYoung]
                                                136747, myoung, Jun 30, 2004 03:53 AM [absolutely dp1]
                                                      136751, dp1, Jun 30, 2004 04:57 AM [MYoung]
                                                            136775, myoung, Jul 01, 2004 12:53 PM [uh huh]
                                          136783, fallenone, Jul 01, 2004 03:54 PM [Et tu, brute?]
      136576, tryingtosurvive, Jun 26, 2004 01:25 PM [Cheer up Mate]
            136581, deadmomwalking, Jun 26, 2004 05:28 PM [JAKE]
                  136620, tryingtosurvive, Jun 27, 2004 01:10 PM [Amen to DMW with some reservations.]
                        136634, dp1, Jun 27, 2004 09:36 PM [TTS]
      136817, nolongerhomocidal, Jul 02, 2004 04:04 AM [what about just talking to your PO]
            136831, dp1, Jul 02, 2004 02:00 PM [NLH]

Forum Home | Top of Thread

Tell a Friend about this page.

Sex Offender Registries, Sex Offenders Search, News, Info and Discussion

Forum: The Other SideThread (Discussion): Struggling

Message 136887 (In Reply to Message 136873)F1

Message 136873You're trying too hard

Thread

Forum: The Other Side

Thread (Discussion): Struggling

Message 136887 (In Reply to Message 136873)
F1

Message 136873
You're trying too hard