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Message 168372 (In Reply to Message 168113)
valerie

Posted by momhelpingbyherself on Dec 01, 2005 03:15 PM | Also by momhelpingbyherself

Gender: Female, Age Bracket: 40 - 49, State: Kentucky, Country: United States

There are also members of the offendres family that will feel the same feelings, ie. the offenders spouse. my mother is very upset with me.. its like she knows without a shadow of a doubt that he did what he did, he admitted to it, but at the same time, she turned her back on her favorite grandchild and sided with him. thus also betraying me when she asked me in court if i was ok, while she sat beside the offender. i am sincerely glad that my best friend got tied up upstairs in another court room with her nephew's guardianship, and my other friend was at the hospital with her mother for her mother's surgery, because they would have jumped over me, and got to my mom. It made them so mad. But i am used to this. And her vindictiveness. It is time for me to order senior invitations for my daughter. I don't even know if i should send her and my brother's and niece one. i don't epect them to come and neither does she. So im trying to decide on that at the moment

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Message 168113

Posted by Valerie on Nov 27, 2005 03:42 PM | Also by Valerie

Gender: Female, Age Bracket: 50 - 59, State: Florida, Country: United States

another excerpt:
Denial
Usually the first reaction of a child molester to discovery is complete denial. The
offender may act shocked, surprised, or even indignant about an allegation of
sexual activity with children. He may claim to know nothing about it or that he
does not remember. He might admit to an act, but deny the intent was sexual
gratification saying, “Is it a crime to hug a child?” He may imply that his actions
were misunderstood, and a mistake has been made. Relatives, friends, neighbors,
and coworkers may aid his denial. These associates may be uncooperative and
even hinder investigation of the offender. In any case the investigator should
anticipate and not be thrown off by strong initial denial by a suspect.

http://www.missingkids.com/en_US/publications/NC70.pdf
from same link:
Minimization
If the evidence against him rules out total denial, the offender may attempt to
minimize what he has done both in quantity and quality. He might claim that it
happened on one or two isolated occasions or he only touched or caressed the
victim. He may be knowledgeable about the law and admit to acts that he knows
are lesser offenses or misdemeanors. Some molesters minimize their activity by
emphasizing the older age of their victims. Such victims might be referred to as
“teens” rather than children. It is important to recognize that even seemingly
cooperative victims may also minimize the quantity and quality of acts. If a certain
sexual act was performed 30 times, the victim might claim it happened only
5 times, and the offender might claim it happened only once or twice.
and one more from same link:
Justification
Many child molesters, especially preferential molesters, spend their lives attempting
to convince themselves that they are not immoral, sexual deviants, or
criminals. They prefer to believe that they are high-minded, loving individuals
whose behavior is misunderstood or politically incorrect at this time in history.
They refer to themselves as “boy lovers” not child molesters. Plugging into this
justification system is the key to interviewing such offenders.
Rationalization usually involves trying to convince himself or others that the
sexual activity with children was not harmful. Validation usually involves trying
to convince himself or others that the sexual activity with children was beneficial.
Child molesters frequently attempt to justify their behavior to law enforcement.
They might claim that they care for children more than the children’s parents do
and what he does is beneficial to the child. They love to talk about starving, abused
children in third-world countries.

Oh and couldnt leave this out...how many of these can we relate to post on this site ....

Fabrication
Some of the more clever child molesters come up with ingenious stories to
explain their behavior. Many incest offenders claim to be providing sex education
for their children. One father claimed he was teaching his daughter the
difference between a “good touch” and “bad touch.”
These stories work even better for an acquaintance molester who is a professional
such as a clergy member, teacher, doctor, or therapist. One offender, a
doctor, claimed he was conducting research on male-youth prostitution. A
professor claimed he was conducting research on pedophilia and collecting and
distributing child pornography for scientific research. A teacher said that his students
had such a desperate need for attention and affection that they practically
threw themselves at him and misunderstood his affection and response as sexual
advances. A minister claimed he was doing research on adolescent growth. In
another case a nursery-school operator, who had taken and collected thousands
of photographs of young, nude or seminude children in his care, claimed they
were not for sexual purposes; he simply admired the anatomy of children.
Another offender claimed his sadomasochistic photographs of children were part
of a child-discipline program. One offender claimed the children made a sexually
explicit videotape without his knowledge and that he had kept it only to show
their parents. Another offender claimed he was merely keeping the child warm in
his bed on a cold night. A lawyer claimed his child-pornography collection was
part of his legal research. Several offenders have recently claimed they are artists
victimized by censorship and their collections are works of art protected by the
First Amendment. Another offender claimed unwanted child pornography was
sent to his computer, and he kept it because he is a compulsive pack rat. One
offender claimed he had child pornography not because of a sexual interest, but
because he liked to collect “forbidden material.” Investigators and prosecutors
must be prepared to confront such stories and attempt to disprove them. Finding
child pornography, child erotica, and other collateral evidence in the possession
of the offender and determining the context in which it was produced, obtained,
maintained, and used are the most effective ways to do this.

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167677, anti, Nov 20, 2005 06:19 PM [Education and knowledge]
      167679, steve, Nov 20, 2005 07:24 PM
            167682, anti, Nov 20, 2005 08:12 PM [Well thank you Steve...]
                  167896, Rejected
            167683, anti, Nov 20, 2005 08:20 PM [Steve...]
                  167740, steve, Nov 21, 2005 03:25 PM
                        167742, anti, Nov 21, 2005 04:10 PM [what is talked about in speaches:]
                              167796, rebel51, Nov 22, 2005 08:52 AM
                                    167821, anti, Nov 22, 2005 05:14 PM [rebel, sure no problem.....]
                                          167911, rebel51, Nov 23, 2005 09:00 AM
                                                167954, anti, Nov 24, 2005 05:15 AM [ahh, rebel, thank you..]
                                                      168065, Valerie, Nov 26, 2005 01:35 PM
                                                            168078, anti, Nov 27, 2005 12:46 AM [valerie...]
                                                                  168256, dp1, Nov 30, 2005 12:26 AM
                                                                        168316, anti, Nov 30, 2005 09:21 PM [To dp:]
                                                                              168385, dp1, Dec 01, 2005 04:29 PM
                                                                                    168429, anti, Dec 02, 2005 03:10 PM [dp]
                                                                        168343, PVulcan, Dec 01, 2005 02:37 AM
                                                                              168430, anti, Dec 02, 2005 03:12 PM [re...]
                                                            168080, anti, Nov 27, 2005 12:54 AM [ps val.......]
                                                                  168109, Valerie, Nov 27, 2005 03:24 PM
                                                                        168193, anti, Nov 29, 2005 12:25 PM [ahh]
                                                                  168113, Valerie, Nov 27, 2005 03:42 PM
                                                                        168147, anti, Nov 28, 2005 08:35 PM [yes val..]
                                                                        168372, momhelpingbyherself, Dec 01, 2005 03:15 PM [valeri...]
                                    167824, momhelpingbyherself, Nov 22, 2005 05:50 PM [my kids education ...]
                                          167838, anti, Nov 22, 2005 07:31 PM [Mom...]
                                                167854, momhelpingbyherself, Nov 22, 2005 08:31 PM [anti]
                                                      167876, Valerie, Nov 22, 2005 11:05 PM
                                                            167955, Rejected
                                                      167912, rebel51, Nov 23, 2005 09:14 AM
                                                            168275, myoung, Nov 30, 2005 07:59 AM [pc anywhere]
                                                                  168404, rebel51, Dec 01, 2005 06:25 PM
                                          168274, myoung, Nov 30, 2005 07:55 AM [momhelping]
                                                168373, momhelpingbyherself, Dec 01, 2005 03:21 PM [myyoung]
                              167898, Rejected
      168388, dp1, Dec 01, 2005 05:08 PM
            168431, anti, Dec 02, 2005 03:14 PM [dp, soo correct:]
                  168434, momhelpingbyherself, Dec 02, 2005 04:22 PM [my 2 cents]
                        168461, anti, Dec 02, 2005 10:05 PM [yes, but......]
                              168552, momhelpingbyherself, Dec 04, 2005 01:32 AM [just a question]
                                    168590, PVulcan, Dec 04, 2005 09:20 PM
                                    168603, anti, Dec 05, 2005 02:11 AM [np w/ you asking...]
                                          168651, momhelpingbyherself, Dec 05, 2005 04:07 PM [anti]
                                                168700, anti, Dec 07, 2005 03:01 AM [you do seem against it....]
                                                      168740, momhelpingbyherself, Dec 07, 2005 03:00 PM [anti]
                                                            168828, anti, Dec 07, 2005 11:27 PM [mom...]
                                                                  168854, momhelpingbyherself, Dec 08, 2005 02:16 AM [anti]
                                                            168845, PVulcan, Dec 08, 2005 01:41 AM
                                                168701, Rejected
      168844, Quest, Dec 08, 2005 01:24 AM

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