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Message 165542 (In Reply to Message 165509)

Posted by 1dadof5 on Oct 26, 2005 11:37 PM | Also by 1dadof5

Gender: Male, Age Bracket: 40 - 49, State: Indiana, Country: United States

Gees people, I didnt direct any statement directly towards anyone other than the Judge mentioned in the article. Fate and other forces seem to take care of themselves, usually in Ironic fashion. Take Jeffrey Dahlmer. He was one of the worst serial killers of the last decade, yet fate brought him justice days after he was put in prison.
Fate will also mett out its punishment to those who pass ridiculous laws in the name of safety. They will lose thier next election and thier political careers soon.
DP1 has been looking for a chance to take a couple weeks off anyway, she will return. I have left for weeks at a time and I still return. Even though they may not log on and post, many still lurk and read all the posts made here and then jump back in when they get ready

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Message 165509

Posted by rabbitreborn on Oct 26, 2005 06:28 PM | Also by rabbitreborn

Gender: Male, Age Bracket: 30 - 39, State: Florida, Country: United States

mom as you have not asked for RSO's to refrain from commenting I feel safe to do so.

<blockquote>I haven't been here that long, but i have seen 2 veterans of this forum leave because the victims are being abused, bashed or not taken seriously by the SO'S RSO's and such. </blockquote>

Please do not make blanket statements that include all RSO's when saying things of this nature.  Other than a debate between you and myself in regards to your situtation, I have never been abusive, bashing, or failed to take another victim seriously. Please do not use a broad stroke of your brush to paint us all in the same fashion.

<blockquote>1. wishing harm from a natural disaster is wish harm on anyone, SO or victim.</blockquote>
Again, you are making it seem that every RSO is guilty of this, when in reality I know I, for one, felt repulsed by this attitude and in fact encouraged the ones I saw saying this to apologize to the person they made the comment to.
<blockquote>2. Everyone gets in a heated debate because the SO's don't understand the emotional turmoil that families and victims are going through. all they want to do is gripe and moan about how unfair the laws are to them.</blockquote>
Alsa, if everyone were gifted with the wisdom of soloman and the patience of Job, then this wouldn't be an issue. Sadly we are not so gifted, and the truth is that most of us DO realize the emotional turmoil (in fact some of us have even lived through it). While we may not always express it, many of us are remorseful for our actions, unfortunately, we also are human and having to deal with ever changing laws that limit our freedom long after we have paid the price for our actions WILL result in anger and unrest.

<blockquote>Now, 2 of the most broad minded people in this forum are leaving, if they come back, it would be a miracle.</blockquote>
You say 2 but I actually count 3 just recently (DP1, DTCDTT, and Deadmomwalking) and that doesn't include the fact that Silverthorn hasn't been around in quite a while. In the case of DP1, I believe she is just taking a break for awhile and will eventually return (or at least I hope so), DTCDTT apparently comes and goes from time to time (or at least that's the impression I get from her), and while I haven't personally talked to deadmomwalking, I also have not seen where she made the comment (at least in an open forum) that she is leaving.
<blockquote> I for one as both a victim, who was STUPID only in capitals to make my point, and as a MOTHER of a VICTIM are gone. Because of the callous, cold, and unthoughtful and just plain ignorance of some of the posts that have been made.</blockquote>
Do we take this to mean YOU are leaving? If so, let me be the first to say goodbye and goodluck in your future endeavours. I am not saying this in a cold or callus way, so please do not take that as a personal attack. No matter what our differences may have been , I do wish the best for you and hope you and your daughter pull through the terrible events that have plagued your life. Good luck to both of you.
<blockquote>Steve, there has to be something that you can do so that victims feel safe to post in, without harsh words from other people. Especially those who hope that mother nature will do harm to others. That was uncalled for.</blockquote>
It WAS uncalled for, howeveer, I don't think it was something that Steve should have concerned himself with as it was just some people running off at the mouth. 
<blockquote>I only hope, that other victims, will get up off their butts, and speak out</blockquote>
Unfortunately, as is evidenced by the thread started in the Victim's Corner by Jenclick seeking advice, that has been shown to be a far fetched dream. All those that advocate for the victims and preach about how the Victim's Corner should be a RSO free area, left this poor girl hanging in the wind with no advise for 5 days before someone that is as much an advocate for RSO rights as he is an advocate for victims rights finally stepped forward and tried to advise her.

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165453, momhelpingbyherself, Oct 25, 2005 09:45 PM [When does a victim ever get any rights]
      165454, steve, Oct 25, 2005 10:00 PM
            165460, anothen, Oct 25, 2005 11:02 PM
      165464, youtoo, Oct 26, 2005 12:35 AM
      165503, tygerlillie, Oct 26, 2005 05:02 PM [Have a stupid ? well maybe not so stupid]
            165955, 1dadof5, Nov 01, 2005 01:57 AM [tiger]
            166017, Navigatr1, Nov 01, 2005 01:26 PM [Not Stupid]
      165509, rabbitreborn, Oct 26, 2005 06:28 PM
            165511, momhelpingbyherself, Oct 26, 2005 06:49 PM [rabbitreborn]
                  165928, rabbitreborn, Oct 31, 2005 09:48 PM
                        166020, Navigatr1, Nov 01, 2005 01:44 PM
            165542, 1dadof5, Oct 26, 2005 11:37 PM
                  165564, myoung, Oct 27, 2005 07:18 AM [coming and going]
      165558, anti, Oct 27, 2005 05:22 AM [what?]
      165565, myoung, Oct 27, 2005 07:19 AM [driving people away]
            165584, momhelpingbyherself, Oct 27, 2005 01:29 PM [myyoung and 1dadoffive]
                  165939, anti, Oct 31, 2005 10:41 PM [dp left?]
                        165971, dp1, Nov 01, 2005 04:12 AM [Anti]
                              165972, anti, Nov 01, 2005 04:18 AM [thank you...]
                  166022, Navigatr1, Nov 01, 2005 01:49 PM
                  166258, myoung, Nov 03, 2005 06:34 AM [mom]
            165598, dp1, Oct 27, 2005 03:31 PM
                  165601, momhelpingbyherself, Oct 27, 2005 04:13 PM [in a perfect world]
                  165658, myoung, Oct 27, 2005 07:58 PM [dp1]
                        165666, momhelpingbyherself, Oct 27, 2005 11:51 PM [myyoung No So's Rso'...]
                              166259, myoung, Nov 03, 2005 06:41 AM [mom]
                        165700, kids1st, Oct 28, 2005 06:56 AM
                        165773, rebel51, Oct 29, 2005 03:07 PM
                              165779, myoung, Oct 29, 2005 05:17 PM [reb]
                                    165788, momhelpingbyherself, Oct 29, 2005 06:21 PM [myyoung]
                                          166260, myoung, Nov 03, 2005 06:46 AM [mom]
                                    165823, rebel51, Oct 30, 2005 01:20 PM
                                          166262, myoung, Nov 03, 2005 07:16 AM [rebel]
                                                166266, rebel51, Nov 03, 2005 08:01 AM
                                                      166280, myoung, Nov 03, 2005 01:27 PM [reb]
            166021, Navigatr1, Nov 01, 2005 01:47 PM [I agree]
      165616, momhelpingbyherself, Oct 27, 2005 04:49 PM [to sit things straight]
            165930, rabbitreborn, Oct 31, 2005 10:13 PM
                  166012, dp1, Nov 01, 2005 12:06 PM
                        166034, rabbitreborn, Nov 01, 2005 02:25 PM
                              166040, dp1, Nov 01, 2005 02:49 PM
                                    166044, dp1, Nov 01, 2005 03:00 PM [My Post]
                                    166068, rabbitreborn, Nov 01, 2005 04:25 PM
                                          166073, dp1, Nov 01, 2005 04:49 PM
                                                166076, rabbitreborn, Nov 01, 2005 05:05 PM
                              166061, dp1, Nov 01, 2005 04:07 PM
                                    166074, rabbitreborn, Nov 01, 2005 04:52 PM
                        166058, Renunciation, Nov 01, 2005 03:43 PM
                              166070, dp1, Nov 01, 2005 04:30 PM
                        166082, momhelpingbyherself, Nov 01, 2005 05:48 PM [dp1]
            166024, Navigatr1, Nov 01, 2005 02:04 PM
                  166083, momhelpingbyherself, Nov 01, 2005 05:55 PM [navigatr1]
                        166264, myoung, Nov 03, 2005 07:24 AM [mom]

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