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Message 165278 (In Reply to Message 165275)

Posted by Ruined on Oct 22, 2005 07:36 PM | Also by Ruined

Gender: Male, Age Bracket: 40 - 49, State: Pennsylvania, Country: United States

Orolan,

It is only natural that there be a lot of anger here.
For offenders that are innocent, or just frustrated, there is an overwhelming urge to vent.
For victims, or people close to victims, there will be a desire for vengence.
Again, we have to remember that we are all just a bunch of hurt people.
Maybe a lot of victims don't post because they have their own issues with what happened to them. Maybe they are scared, embarassed, ashamed, or just in too much pain to interact with other people yet. Let alone interact with offenders.
I could easily understand that.
So, we have to show some sensitivity to them.
I agree with a lot of what you said, except on one point.
We have to be very careful about stating that many people calling themselves victims are actually just looking for attention, or have other sick motives.
That is what we are fighting against. We hate the fact that non-offenders are making assumptions about our stories, our pasts and our motives.
We can't be lured into that way of thinking. We are all individuals, and the entire point i have been trying to make, over and over, is that we all have our own stories. Some are valid, some are sick.
It is impossible to get this information at a glance.

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Message 165275

Posted by orolan on Oct 22, 2005 06:48 PM | Also by orolan

Gender: Male, Age Bracket: 40 - 49, State: N/A, Country: United States

An excellent post, Ruined.
I for one generally just read what is posted in this forum without ever responding. In some 4,000 posts I might have 40 in here over the years.
Thing is, when I see a "victim" who appears not to be a victim at all but perhaps a person seeking attention, I speak out. Fact is, there are people out there that claim to be victims who are not. There are people who use the sex offender hysteria to further their own misguided agendas. These people detract and take away from the true issues. I would think the victims and their advocates would be the first to jump on these people. But they don't. They just ignore them until I say something and THEN they're all over the thread. Take a look at the activity. This forum is dead until something happens like me calling a spade a spade (btw jcami never once said she was a victim or a parent of a victim and never asked for any victim-related help. Perhaps her thread should have been moved to the General Forum to start with as it had nothing at all to do with victim issues?). Anyway, suddenly there's a bunch of activity. But it's not posts to help victims. It's post to once again talk about banning RSOs from this forum. Heck, sometimes I think if RSOs never posted here NOBODY ever would. Victims post and it takes three and four days for someone to respond. Ask jenclink(spelling?).
Anyway, as I told Steve I won't respond here to posts by victims. But I won't be silenced.

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165078, Ruined, Oct 20, 2005 06:54 AM [Dehumanizing the SO's]
      165102, steve, Oct 20, 2005 02:39 PM
      165116, Ruined, Oct 20, 2005 05:26 PM
            165203, Hannahsmom, Oct 21, 2005 08:38 PM
      165273, victorialondon, Oct 22, 2005 06:06 PM [You must get your story ito wder circul...]
      165275, orolan, Oct 22, 2005 06:48 PM
            165278, Ruined, Oct 22, 2005 07:36 PM
      165279, Valerie, Oct 22, 2005 07:38 PM
            165308, orolan, Oct 23, 2005 02:18 PM
                  165347, momhelpingbyherself, Oct 23, 2005 08:13 PM [orlon and valerie]
      165325, Valerie, Oct 23, 2005 03:40 PM
      165388, steve, Oct 24, 2005 04:30 PM [Thread now closed]

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