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Thread (Discussion): What causes sex offenders to re- committ crimes
Message 163653
Posted by vegasgal
on Oct 06, 2005 12:34 PM | Also by vegasgal
| Gender: Female,
Age Bracket: 30 - 39,
State: Nevada,
Country: United States |
I am wondering what causes a male offender to pick a little girl or
a boy? I realize most were abused but didn't know what makes them pick a certain gender over another.
Also is it possible for a pediphile to rape some and rape and kill some of their victims?
I am following a case of a man in FL that I knew his deceased mother when he was released in CA after 11 yrs and is now going
on trial for the rape of a 9 yr old girl while out less then a year when
this ocured.
It took FL 8 yrs to finally get DNA evidence that connects him to her
rape.
I believe laws should be changed across the board to lock them up
for life for a first offense. This is an epidemic what are kids are
going through with all these sick SOBS out loose. There is no cure
no question about it. PattyT
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Message 163657 (In Reply to Message 163653)
Posted by artie
on Oct 06, 2005 01:42 PM | Also by artie
| Gender: Male,
Age Bracket: 30 - 39,
State: Florida,
Country: United States |
believe laws should be changed across the board to lock them up for life for a first offense
It depends on the offense. In some cases I agree. In most, I do not.
Right now the law is a lump-it-all get-em-all. The most severe cases get lighter sentences than they should and the payback is that the most minor offenders get punished way too harshly for the crime. When a child is involved, it is all disgusting but we must keep resources and energies in the proper perepectives.
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Message 163663 (In Reply to Message 163653)
Posted by dp1
on Oct 06, 2005 02:07 PM | Also by dp1
| Gender: Female,
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State: Florida,
Country: United States |
Can you tell us more about his first crime? What do you know about the crime in FL?
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Message 163666 (In Reply to Message 163653)
Posted by oicu812
on Oct 06, 2005 02:24 PM | Also by oicu812
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people sexually assault others because they choose to. because they want to. no other reason, end of story. any other reason and it can be justified. can a sexual assault be justified? absolutely not.
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Message 163708 (In Reply to Message 163653)
Posted by orolan
on Oct 06, 2005 07:10 PM | Also by orolan
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Country: United States |
This is an epidemic what are kids are going through with all these sick SOBS out loose.
Yes it is rather sad that all these SOBs are out there raping their own children or brothers or sisters. Some pretty disgusting parents out there.
Or did you forget that is who commits most of the crimes?
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Message 163758 (In Reply to Message 163653)
Posted by rebel51
on Oct 07, 2005 10:57 AM | Also by rebel51
| Gender: Female,
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State: California,
Country: United States |
While I disagree with you in that they all need to be locked up forever on a first offense, I do agree with the part that there is no cure.
Now to explain. I feel that everyone (for the most part) deserve a second chance. That does not include the people that have killed or were violent etc. etc. them I agree, they need to be locked up forever to think about what they have done, and to make sure that they never do it again!!
While there is no cure I DO think that there is abstinance, at least from that!! I do think that alot of people have been counciled and they have learned to control thier urges and they are now productive citizens who are being punished way beyond what the courts sentenced them too. Then there are the horrors that make it so that we all cower behind our locked doors and peek out from behind our pulled blinds and cause us to pass as many laws as we can get away with to feel safe and make our children safe....the very saddest part is that in MY case and in thousands and thousands of cases everywhere..the horror was locked in the house with me in the form of a loving relative.
I dont know what causes a person to pick a male or female, I have no idea what makes them choose a certain gender..I think that in some cases it is opportunity, in other cases it is sexual arousal, in others it is who they want to dominate and they dont care about the gender at all...but like I said I have no real idea.
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Message 163767 (In Reply to Message 163653)
vegasgal
Posted by dp1
on Oct 07, 2005 01:31 PM | Also by dp1
| Gender: Female,
Age Bracket: N/A,
State: Florida,
Country: United States |
I am wondering what causes a male offender to pick a little girl or a boy?
Like yourself, I find human behavior very interesting and question pretty much everything. What I've noticed though, is that the younger the target victims the more sexless they become. We can't necessarily put labels on offenders as neatly as the textbooks would like us to do. If an offender molested a 3 year old girl he wasn't looking for sex plain and simple. You can't assume he is attracted to little girls only based on one offense with such a young victim. It's safer to assume he's just as much a risk with a little boy as he is with a little girl.
Us non-offending heterosexuals have a tougher time understanding the extreme lack of boundaries some sex offenders have. We are more black and white and can't imagine having sex with someone outside of what we would consider "normal". We can not apply our rules and boudaries to their behavior. They are not the fixated maniacs the psychologists tell us they are.
So what am I saying? We'd be better off asking ourselves, What can I do to protect my children and establish healthy boundaries from people that necessarily do not have the same morals or boundaries that I have? Trying to figure out why a sex offender picked a girl or a boy will never make sense since all of this is irrational anyway.
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Message 163794 (In Reply to Message 163758)
Posted by saintjimmy
on Oct 07, 2005 06:33 PM | Also by saintjimmy
| Gender: Male,
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State: Michigan,
Country: United States |
There is no cure, at least no reliable one, for pedophilia, correctly defined in the diagnostic sense, and as distinct from "statutory rape" of a consenting adolescent--and also as distinct from other conditions that might spur someone to offend against a child. Some molesters may offend in order to hurt the victim's parents, or because of a combination of opportunity, curiosity and intoxication, or due to schizophrenia, etc. All of these need to be considered independently, since they are not the same phenomenon as pedophilia.
Restricting it to true pedophilia, you are also correct that lack of a cure does not guarantee a reoffense. Just as, there is no cure for alcoholism--but some folks have whatever combination of determination, conscientiousness and fear of the consequences it takes to remain sober and others don't.
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Message 163928 (In Reply to Message 163767)
Posted by 1dadof5
on Oct 09, 2005 02:49 AM | Also by 1dadof5
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State: Indiana,
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DP1 has made an excellent point. Pedophilia is a phenomenon that we may never understand for some time to come. I think genetics, environment and experiences all play a role in the development of a pedophile. I believe that pedophiles are no different than homosexuals or heterosexuals who want adults. That being said, I believe that just as there is no cure for homosexuality, there is no cure for pedophilia. All that can be done is treatment with behavior modification, drugs or whatever can be used to prevent a criminal offense from occurring. Like alcoholism, they will always be a pedophile fighting an addiction. Should we lock them all up for life on a first offense? Depends, was there force? Multiple victims? See, There are even variables when it comes to offenses against a child. Any violent rape, murder, kidnapping and forced graphic pornographers all need 25 to life, period. What about these 90% familiar offenders such as parents, grandparents and such? A pat on the behind or some touching between cousins 13 and 9 should be treated like capital crimes. Even a parent who has sexual contact with their own child may deserve a second chance upon treatment and rehabilitation. Again, let me repeat, anyone who uses force to commit any crime, especially sex deserves to be locked up and the key tossed away for a very long time.
What we cant have is a “one size fits all” mentality as we have now. People are as varied as the crimes they commit. The sentences given should be reflective of the crime committed. In the case of the poster in question, this guy deserves to be plastered on the net somewhere because he has shown that he repeats his offenses and may do it still yet again.
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163653, vegasgal, Oct 06, 2005 12:34 PM
163657, artie, Oct 06, 2005 01:42 PM
163663, dp1, Oct 06, 2005 02:07 PM
163666, oicu812, Oct 06, 2005 02:24 PM
163708, orolan, Oct 06, 2005 07:10 PM
163723, Rejected
163756, Rejected
163738, Rejected
163742, Rejected
163758, rebel51, Oct 07, 2005 10:57 AM
163794, saintjimmy, Oct 07, 2005 06:33 PM
163767, dp1, Oct 07, 2005 01:31 PM [vegasgal]
163928, 1dadof5, Oct 09, 2005 02:49 AM
163854, Rejected
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