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Thread (Discussion): Need advice - dp1
Message 162240
Posted by jenclink
on Sep 21, 2005 06:52 AM | Also by jenclink
| Gender: Female,
Age Bracket: 21 - 29,
State: Washington,
Country: United States |
Hey everyone! It's been a while since I last logged on.
Anyway, I actually need some help. I was raped five years ago, and when I told the police I was laughed at and brushed off. Well, two days ago, my rapist contacted me telling me that I was a "b****" and a "F***** S****" and that if he had the chance he'd rape me again. But I seriously don't know what to do. I don't know if I can go to the police because I don't trust them. My ex-boyfriend is freaking out telling me I need to go to the police with this, but I seriously don't want to because they do nothing.
They laughed in my face. I don't know. What should I do? I really don't know.
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Message 162729 (In Reply to Message 162240)
Posted by artie
on Sep 26, 2005 03:22 PM | Also by artie
| Gender: Male,
Age Bracket: 30 - 39,
State: Florida,
Country: United States |
Jen,
I was involved with this long ago with it happening to a family member. if i had to do it over again, I would of course, still called the police, but i also would call my (or a) lawyer.
There are many reasons why cops treated you like this but that would take a lot more space. Call a good family lawyer and start getting a paper trail on this guy. your lawyer will contact police as necessary. He will also know when to sue the guy for costs.
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Message 162806 (In Reply to Message 162729)
Posted by rebel51
on Sep 27, 2005 09:26 AM | Also by rebel51
| Gender: Female,
Age Bracket: 30 - 39,
State: California,
Country: United States |
Welcome back,
I agree with Artie. Also I would like to know why the police laughed at you?
I would call the police first thing anyway, so that it is officially on record, if he really does show up. You need to have a paper trail so that you can prove anything you may NEED to prove later.
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Message 162841 (In Reply to Message 162240)
jenclink
Posted by momhelpingbyherself
on Sep 27, 2005 06:30 PM | Also by momhelpingbyherself
| Gender: Female,
Age Bracket: 30 - 39,
State: Kentucky,
Country: United States |
i iagree with what artie and rebel said. I do want to ask you a few questions? Do you live in a big town or city? If so maybe there is a special unit for rape victims, some who will not laugh in your face and will take it seriously. Sadly, this is a stigma that some rape victims face. However, if the rapists is now harrassing you, this is something that does need to be brought to their attention. Do you have an answering machine. Set it to where it is the announcing mode, and let it record what he is saying, maybe an option, but let him know that he is being recorded! Even if he isn't, maybe that will be enough to stop the calls. But if you are afraid that this will further anger him, then as much as you mistrust the police, go back and ask for a female officer.
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Message 162962 (In Reply to Message 162841)
Posted by jenclink
on Sep 29, 2005 06:48 AM | Also by jenclink
| Gender: Female,
Age Bracket: 21 - 29,
State: Washington,
Country: United States |
Thanks. I really don't know why they laughed at me. I just know that when you're 14 and something like that happens to you, you don't want to tell anyone. I live in a pretty good sized town. It's not huge like Seattle, but it's not really small like Klamath Falls,Oregon or anything, I've already checked to see if theres some sort of center...but unfortunantly, I haven't found one yet.
Again, thank you for all your help. It means a lot.
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Message 162971 (In Reply to Message 162841)
Posted by pj1216
on Sep 29, 2005 11:52 AM | Also by pj1216
| Gender: Female,
Age Bracket: 30 - 39,
State: Washington,
Country: United States |
Hi, I am sorry you are having to go through this, and it looks like you are still quite young, so bery young at the time of the rape. It is unforgivable that police failed you before. Look in your local phone directory, or call information and ask for the number of the local or national sexual assault services and/or domestic violence hotline. They usually have a toll free number if access to a phone or long distance is a problem, so that you can call from a payphone for free if needed. And many will take collect calls as well. They will know of attorneys dedicated to helping in cases like yours, who are in their careers to help, not to get rich. They will have counselors and advocates and even other victims you can talk to. And I think you might still be within the statute of limitations so that you can still press charges. The recent threats should end any doubt anyone may have had about the occurrence in the past. I also live in WA state, and have received many of thiese great services, little to no cost for me, on behalf of myself and my children. And once a police report is filed, you can file a claim for Crime Victim's Assistance, which can often help pay for your counselors and certain other needs. Most of all, take care of yourself, and don't stop talking until someone listens. And I am thankful your exboyfriend is standing by you, few do. That is the sign of a good man. My ex wanted everything hushed up, even though he knew about it going into the relationship.
Hopefully, a happy future awaits you once you get past some of this. And you are doing a very wise thing in asking for help. My thoughts will be with you. As for the former (lack of) law enforcement, there is always civil court to seek damages from the city or county that failed to protect you.
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Message 163033 (In Reply to Message 162971)
jenclink
Posted by momhelpingbyherself
on Sep 29, 2005 08:36 PM | Also by momhelpingbyherself
| Gender: Female,
Age Bracket: 30 - 39,
State: Kentucky,
Country: United States |
jenclink, i am so sorry for the way you were treated. My daughter was also 15, but my step father only touched her breasts, and it was me who pressed charges. He was charged with child abuse in the 3rd degree. But like most court systems, he got slapped on the wrist. he spent 30 days in jail, with work release, 60 days probated, 2 years without having contact with my kids or me. But his punishment, like yours is more on me. My mother no longer talks to me. I have had nightmares. Horrible ones. I am sorry that it seems that the rape victim in all states seems to have to feel its the victims fault, and basically make them feel guilty, dirty, and like the slime that the actual offender is. Yes, the offender may have at one time, been a victim themselves, but that does not excuse their behavior as they get older. I do know, that some people who are in this forum, but not the victims forum, are say pedophiles, but have, and i do want to stress Have never acted out on that urge, so in my opinion, that puts these type of people in a class of their own. One that knows they have a condition, has seeked help for their condition, and goes on to lead a normal life. I hope that if the police don't take you seriously, that you will explore other avenues. Maybe contact the Attorney General's Office for your state, and explain to them what has happened, and how the police treated you. Or as pj1216 suggested, maybe check into going civil. There is no reason for any victim to be made to feel the way that you have. And believe me, even the family of victims can be made to feel this way. It is a grave injustice to all concerned. My heart and prayers are with you.
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Message 163117 (In Reply to Message 162240)
jenclick
Posted by eagle10s1
on Oct 01, 2005 12:49 AM | Also by eagle10s1
| Gender: Male,
Age Bracket: 30 - 39,
State: Florida,
Country: United States |
Jenclick, the first thing I would like to say is it is terrible how you were treated. With that said, I would like to give you some insight on why you were treated the way that you were (remember I don’t say that this was right). You have to remember that a police officer who gets a complaint from a victim who states that she was raped (5) years ago, is thinking “you have to be kidding me” Why didn’t this person make a complaint (5) years ago”. Now I am assuming that you spoke to a uniformed officer, what you need to know is that most officers don’t have any training when it comes to dealing with sexual battered victims. So, if you put yourself in the shoes of the officer, he/she probably thought you were making up this story. With that said, it doesn’t excuse the manor in which he/she responded to you as a possible victim. You should have been treated with respect and dignity, which was not the case. I only want to give you some insight is to why you may have been treated the way you were, so that you can have a better understanding. Now, what I would tell you to do is this; you need to call the police department back, I would contact the detective division, someone who works sex crimes, and inform them of your situation. I would hope that they would take your complaint and act upon it. This does, as some have said, make a paper trail; demand that a report is taken. If that does not work, you let me know and I will contact the agency in your state and get to the bottom of this. It appalls me to see how victims are treated by some law enforcement agencies. I have contacts in Washington that I feel would be more than happy to help, I would hope. Let us know how this turns out, but don’t just drop it. Remember, the cycle of victimization can only be broken when the strong victim ends it. Please be a strong victim before there are more.
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Message 163128 (In Reply to Message 163117)
eagle
Posted by momhelpingbyherself
on Oct 01, 2005 02:45 AM | Also by momhelpingbyherself
| Gender: Female,
Age Bracket: 30 - 39,
State: Kentucky,
Country: United States |
very good post. wish i had you on my daughters side as well as mine
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Message 163212 (In Reply to Message 163117)
Posted by jenclink
on Oct 02, 2005 12:08 AM | Also by jenclink
| Gender: Female,
Age Bracket: 21 - 29,
State: Washington,
Country: United States |
Wow. Nobody has ever offered to help me out like that. Thank you, very much. Thank you all. This has helped a lot.
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Message 163249 (In Reply to Message 162240)
What???
Posted by karaokedavid82
on Oct 02, 2005 03:20 AM | Also by karaokedavid82
| Gender: Male,
Age Bracket: 21 - 29,
State: Florida,
Country: United States |
The police laughed at you??? Don't let that get you down, it was bad police, I promise you. . .GO TO THE POLICE, I know you don't trust them, but this is very serious, and if you don't go to them, this could come back to haunt you. They actually laughed at you? That's sad, don't let that stop you. . .good luck with your decision
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Message 163265 (In Reply to Message 163249)
jenclink
Posted by momhelpingbyherself
on Oct 02, 2005 05:48 AM | Also by momhelpingbyherself
| Gender: Female,
Age Bracket: 30 - 39,
State: Kentucky,
Country: United States |
jenclink, you will find out that victims as well as many of the people here on all sides will be willing to lend an ear and help. but i am understanding to your need of not being able to talk about this in the rest of the forums because you aren't ready to yet.. I am sometimes like that as well. But, when i do, let me tell you something, i do get anger out, all though it may not be in the best interest of me in the way i go about it. I have a brother who is a police officer. And he would be appalled by the way you were treated. As much as you mistrust them, go to them, as for a female detective. If you don't feel like you can trust them, go to your clergyman/woman. They have to report this, because of the nature of the instant, From what i have read of your post, you are strong, if your weren't, you wouldn't have wondered into this forum. Hang tough, although i know that at times it feels like its the hardest thing to do. But do not let the perpetrator have any more power over you. Take back the power. your power.
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Message 163349 (In Reply to Message 163265)
Posted by jenclink
on Oct 03, 2005 10:44 AM | Also by jenclink
| Gender: Female,
Age Bracket: 21 - 29,
State: Washington,
Country: United States |
Thank you. The weird thing is, my father works for the police station. He's a 911 call taker, and he's friends with most of the police officers I tried talking to. It's extremely irrtating, but I just went to talk to one of the female officers, and she was very understanding. It looks like I'm going to get this thing all figured out, and I don't think I could've done it without everyone on here. Thank you all.
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Message 163454 (In Reply to Message 163349)
just a thought
Posted by momhelpingbyherself
on Oct 04, 2005 02:04 PM | Also by momhelpingbyherself
| Gender: Female,
Age Bracket: 30 - 39,
State: Kentucky,
Country: United States |
that is what everyone is here for. good luck. women tend to be more sympathetic
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Message 163509 (In Reply to Message 163454)
Posted by jenclink
on Oct 04, 2005 08:22 PM | Also by jenclink
| Gender: Female,
Age Bracket: 21 - 29,
State: Washington,
Country: United States |
Thats true. I think its the whole maternal instinct.
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Message 163576 (In Reply to Message 163509)
jenclink
Posted by momhelpingbyherself
on Oct 05, 2005 01:09 PM | Also by momhelpingbyherself
| Gender: Female,
Age Bracket: 30 - 39,
State: Kentucky,
Country: United States |
i would go to the dirt for any of my girls and i have 3
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Message 163609 (In Reply to Message 163576)
Posted by jenclink
on Oct 05, 2005 08:10 PM | Also by jenclink
| Gender: Female,
Age Bracket: 21 - 29,
State: Washington,
Country: United States |
I'd do it for my little brothers too. If anyone ever tried to hurt them, it wouldn't be a pretty sight.
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Message 163660 (In Reply to Message 163609)
jenclink
Posted by momhelpingbyherself
on Oct 06, 2005 01:46 PM | Also by momhelpingbyherself
| Gender: Female,
Age Bracket: 30 - 39,
State: Kentucky,
Country: United States |
i guess i would do it for any child, not just mine.
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Message 163839 (In Reply to Message 163660)
Posted by jenclink
on Oct 08, 2005 07:27 AM | Also by jenclink
| Gender: Female,
Age Bracket: 21 - 29,
State: Washington,
Country: United States |
Thats the sign of a great parent.
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Message 164026 (In Reply to Message 163839)
jenclink
Posted by momhelpingbyherself
on Oct 10, 2005 02:04 AM | Also by momhelpingbyherself
| Gender: Female,
Age Bracket: 30 - 39,
State: Kentucky,
Country: United States |
in some peoples eyes. other's see it in a different way. jenclink, don't give up.
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Message 164039 (In Reply to Message 164026)
Posted by jenclink
on Oct 10, 2005 08:02 AM | Also by jenclink
| Gender: Female,
Age Bracket: 21 - 29,
State: Washington,
Country: United States |
I won't. It may be really hard sometimes, but I do have a handful of people who care about me. And I have this message board for when I need to rant to other victims. So I don't think giving up is an option at this point. The only way to fix something is to face it.
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Message 164159 (In Reply to Message 164039)
jenclink
Posted by momhelpingbyherself
on Oct 11, 2005 04:08 PM | Also by momhelpingbyherself
| Gender: Female,
Age Bracket: 30 - 39,
State: Kentucky,
Country: United States |
oh i faced it square in the eye. had no choice. family you know. i would do it all over again. that is how much i love my daughters. my husband made my oldest cry this morning, and then last night he said i was like my mother. i told him the next time he said that, i would pick something up and knock him up side the head with it. My mother chose a molester twice over her her granddaughter, i didn't.
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Message 164245 (In Reply to Message 164159)
Posted by jenclink
on Oct 12, 2005 07:04 AM | Also by jenclink
| Gender: Female,
Age Bracket: 21 - 29,
State: Washington,
Country: United States |
Thats all you can do. I know that when I have kids someday, I'll be the happiest person ever, and I will do whatever I have to in order to make sure they're safe.
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Message 168389 (In Reply to Message 164245)
Posted by dp1
on Dec 01, 2005 05:17 PM | Also by dp1
| Gender: Female,
Age Bracket: N/A,
State: Florida,
Country: United States |
I know that when I have kids someday, I'll be the happiest person ever, and I will do whatever I have to in order to make sure they're safe.
How will this be possible if you are marrying a man who molested a child?
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Message 168459 (In Reply to Message 168389)
dp1
Posted by jenclink
on Dec 02, 2005 10:01 PM | Also by jenclink
| Gender: Female,
Age Bracket: N/A,
State: Washington,
Country: United States |
dp1, you really need to learn how to get your stories straight before you harrass people. Do that, and I'll be more than willing to listen to your opinions, but for now, you don't know what your talking about and your predjudice against ALL RSOs is what bugs me more than anything else. I'm not an idiot. I've been doing my homework on him ever since I first found out what he did. So please, either mind your own business or talk to me and find out the whole story before you post on my threads because this thread was about the rapist who was threating me, not my BOYFRIEND. Note, boyfriend, not fiance.
I'd rather you not post on my threads anymore if you're going to assume things. Send me a PM instead.
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Message 168468 (In Reply to Message 162240)
Posted by Quest
on Dec 02, 2005 10:44 PM | Also by Quest
| Gender: Male,
Age Bracket: N/A,
State: Minnesota,
Country: United States |
I don't know why they felt they should laugh off your case but in dealing with the police I have found that a call to the Attoney General office in my state, MN, has always got instant results. A human answers the phone and a helpful one at that. You need to try this. These threats are real. I could give you a three page treatise on why these threats are real but I wont. Trust me, you are in danger.
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Message 168513 (In Reply to Message 168459)
Posted by dp1
on Dec 03, 2005 06:42 PM | Also by dp1
| Gender: Female,
Age Bracket: N/A,
State: Florida,
Country: United States |
I'd rather you not post on my threads anymore if you're going to assume things. Send me a PM instead.
I don't have problems not replying to your posts. However, I will not play little games and hide behind PMs like others do. If you can not talk openly about why you are dating a sex offender and accept feedback then that's your issue not mine. If you have children with him some states will hold you responsible for being a neglectful parent if they are abused by him. This is where the trends seem to be going. This issue is extremely important. Readers need to know there are options for young women. The option to have children and protect them from child molesters is a valid one whether you want to read my posts about it or not. Victims can also make a choice to not live the life of a victim. Choosing a non-offender partner is all part of it. You've made a choice and your mind is made up. There's nothing to fight about. But that doesn't mean others can't hear the other side and consider better options. Forums are not all about you. PMs are. Sorry, I'm not into PMs to hide or cover up abuse issues.
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Message 168520 (In Reply to Message 168513)
Posted by jenclink
on Dec 03, 2005 08:47 PM | Also by jenclink
| Gender: Female,
Age Bracket: N/A,
State: Washington,
Country: United States |
So me sending you a respectful PM is playing a game? Somehow I doubt that. And I never said they were all about me, but this thread is about my rapist getting in contact with me. I remember you chastising me one time for posting something that had nothing to do with the thread. Why are you so surprised when people do it to you? I think you need to realize that forums aren't all about you either. And I really didn't think requesting you to send me a PM if you had a problem with me was too much to ask.
I can't have children anyway, dp1. Just found that out at the doctors office yesterday.
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Message 168527 (In Reply to Message 168468)
Posted by jenclink
on Dec 03, 2005 09:46 PM | Also by jenclink
| Gender: Female,
Age Bracket: N/A,
State: Washington,
Country: United States |
Thank you. Luckily, he hasn't gotten a hold of me again, but I'm making sure I stay on top of things.
Thank you again.
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Message 168563 (In Reply to Message 168459)
jenclink
Posted by momhelpingbyherself
on Dec 04, 2005 02:37 AM | Also by momhelpingbyherself
| Gender: Female,
Age Bracket: N/A,
State: Kentucky,
Country: United States |
jenclink, i was one of the first to stand up for you. but you have dp all wrong. she stands up for all people. not just the so's. how can you justify that you will be the happiest woman in the world when you have kids. you don't know with any guarantee that if you marry this guy you are dating, just because everyone says he wont do it again, he wont. are you willing to take that chance? I wish to God that i didn't. I thought just because i was in my 20's that my stepfather would never touch my 15 yr. old. I was wrong. I stood up to him when he did it to me, i should have reported him, wrong again. i think you are jumping on dp because you may be afraid that she is telling the truth and you are calling her a so hater, when if anything she is furtherst from that. and she has opened my eyes, along with a few others here that have given me insight on some people that have helped me that were pedio's that never acted upon it, and then there are some offenders, who i have gotten into it with, but they have pm me, and talked to me, and i can see what they are saying is true as well. You need to realize, that just because he may be able to fool some people, if this could be the case, you are lashing out at dp, because maybe you are thinking the same thing
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Message 168572 (In Reply to Message 168520)
Posted by dp1
on Dec 04, 2005 06:23 AM | Also by dp1
| Gender: Female,
Age Bracket: N/A,
State: Florida,
Country: United States |
I can't have children anyway, dp1. Just found that out at the doctors office yesterday.
I'm sorry. I didn't realize you got bad news lately. I hope your health is ok.
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Message 168627 (In Reply to Message 162240)
Posted by sisterseekinghelp
on Dec 05, 2005 07:23 AM | Also by sisterseekinghelp
| Gender: Female,
Age Bracket: N/A,
State: Ohio,
Country: United States |
You really do need to seek a lawyer who specializes in this type of law. It is hard to give you specific advice, because I am not sure what state you live in. Every state has different statutes. I am currently in law school, and I would suggest this approach. Make sure you also emphasize the part about the "the police not responding to you seeking help." If you remember who you spoke to and when write this information down (while it is still fresh in your memory). Even a discription of the officer. Keep a log book. You might want to approach the situation as wanting a restraining order against your offender. You are going to want to step up and be more demanding and also specific. Research your possibilities. The best power is education. Educate yourself. Become familiar with legal terms and guidelines. People will tend to take you more seriously, as opposed to just seeking help in general. If you do seek a lawyer, then do not be afraid to ask to the lawyer to negotiate a price. just because they give you a price does not mean that you have to accept it. ultimately you are the "customer".
Most important, stay calm and strong when you are explaining your situation either to a lawyer or police officer. they will have compassion, but they will also respond better to someone who is sure of themselves, and can keep it together.
i hope this helps. if you have anyother questions please feel free to contact me. I cannot emphasize enough on how you must act on this right away. do not let to much time pass. There are statute of limitations, and threats are not taken as serious when they were given a couple of weeks ago. The courts and police tend to see it as, this much time has passed and nothing happened, so what are you still worried about? Please write down everything you could remember and keep the log. It will only help you in the end.
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Message 168637 (In Reply to Message 168563)
Posted by dp1
on Dec 05, 2005 12:56 PM | Also by dp1
| Gender: Female,
Age Bracket: N/A,
State: Florida,
Country: United States |
Mom, thanks for speaking up. Not that it makes it right, but I expected to be lashed out at. Either Jen is an offender or she's picked up on some bad habits of the pedos in her life. Either way, my intentions were to bring out the irrational thought process. Jen, if you are a pedo in disguise please continue to post in the other side and ask for more feedback. If you are not a sex offender than let's get a little more real around here and quit the games. Us folks in forum land are getting some very mixed signals from you. Please clarify. Thanks.
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Message 168655 (In Reply to Message 168572)
jenclink
Posted by momhelpingbyherself
on Dec 05, 2005 04:27 PM | Also by momhelpingbyherself
| Gender: Female,
Age Bracket: N/A,
State: Kentucky,
Country: United States |
iam truly sorry that you are unable to have children. But what i am having trouble with is the fact that you have a boyfriend that you have to have advise to find out if he is a pediophile or not. I being both a victim and a mother of a victim, if i had even a split second thought that my daughter or anyone i cared about was being around someone who i even thought could potentially harm them, wheather it be a sexual offense or murder, you can bet, i would keep that person away from them so fast that everyones head would spin. And you being a rape victim, how could you even want to be around someone who has the capabilities. Wheather they have acted on them recently or not? I am sorry but I, and i am sure other's don't understand this. I know that its good to forgive, but i think that forgiveness is going a bit in the wrong direction, when you say one thing, and act out on the other. Dp as well as other's has a great deal of knowledge, and for you to strike out at her, well that just shows that you have no idea just how knowledgeble she is, or that maybe you are feeling some kind of worry over your situation. But this is just my two cents.
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Message 168742 (In Reply to Message 168637)
jenclink
Posted by momhelpingbyherself
on Dec 07, 2005 03:07 PM | Also by momhelpingbyherself
| Gender: Female,
Age Bracket: N/A,
State: Kentucky,
Country: United States |
dp, no problem, i would hope that all of us would speak up for true victims in the forum. jen, you need to clarify exactly what catagory that you fall in. you didn't post in here until the rules change. you call yourself a victim, yet you have an RSO for a boyfriend. I understand that you can forgive, but it seems to me that you forgave instantly. How do you know that you can trust this person? How long have you known him,? I think that you have just left us completely confused because you said you were raped but then now you have a RSO for a boyfriend.
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Message 168779 (In Reply to Message 168742)
Posted by Valerie
on Dec 07, 2005 05:57 PM | Also by Valerie
| Gender: Female,
Age Bracket: N/A,
State: Florida,
Country: United States |
Lets not forget that Jenclink started this thread with the title "Need Advice" ...she is only open to it if it serves her purpose and leans towards her own pre-concieved expectations...but as Steve or someone pointed out, she is young and the world will bring her to her knees, with or without our imput...
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Message 168837 (In Reply to Message 168637)
dp
Posted by anti
on Dec 08, 2005 12:49 AM | Also by anti
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why in the world are you saying this person jen may be pedo??
what gives you the right?
anti
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Message 168841 (In Reply to Message 162240)
Jen
Posted by PVulcan
on Dec 08, 2005 01:01 AM | Also by PVulcan
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Jen no one can stop you from filing a report with Law Enforcement. It's charging the case that becomes a problem when alot of time goes by.
Side note: Did you happen to make contact with any of those referrals I gave you? If they didn't work out for you, I have plenty more in your area ok.
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Message 169198 (In Reply to Message 162240)
Posted by june5
on Dec 11, 2005 09:00 AM | Also by june5
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Jenclink, I was also raped as a young teenager and the police didn't take me seriously either. I know how you feel. It is terrible that now you are being victimized all over again. In my humble opinion you should go down to the police station and report what this man is doing to you know. Even if they don't want to take you seriously, it will probably be empowering for you to take a stand against him. I agree that you should also get an attorney if the police won't take you seriously. There is no way that you should have to submit to this kind of abuse. Good luck to you, and try to stay strong.
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Message 169686 (In Reply to Message 168637)
dp1
Posted by momhelpingbyherself
on Dec 17, 2005 07:55 PM | Also by momhelpingbyherself
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i am kind of upset because i took up for her, and she hasn't even attempted to post any replies back or anything. SO its making me think that maybe she is the kind of people you all told me that like to troll here, and to watch here. not saying she is, but would like to hear some kind of response from her. I would hope that she went to the police if what happened did. Like we all told her to. But she is givin mixed emotions, and making everyone wonder. and making me wonder if i was a fool to take up for her and take what everyone was throwing, not that i can't.
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162240, jenclink, Sep 21, 2005 06:52 AM
162729, artie, Sep 26, 2005 03:22 PM
162806, rebel51, Sep 27, 2005 09:26 AM
162841, momhelpingbyherself, Sep 27, 2005 06:30 PM [jenclink]
162962, jenclink, Sep 29, 2005 06:48 AM
162971, pj1216, Sep 29, 2005 11:52 AM
163033, momhelpingbyherself, Sep 29, 2005 08:36 PM [jenclink]
163117, eagle10s1, Oct 01, 2005 12:49 AM [jenclick]
163128, momhelpingbyherself, Oct 01, 2005 02:45 AM [eagle]
163212, jenclink, Oct 02, 2005 12:08 AM
163249, karaokedavid82, Oct 02, 2005 03:20 AM [What???]
163265, momhelpingbyherself, Oct 02, 2005 05:48 AM [jenclink]
163349, jenclink, Oct 03, 2005 10:44 AM
163454, momhelpingbyherself, Oct 04, 2005 02:04 PM [just a thought]
163509, jenclink, Oct 04, 2005 08:22 PM
163576, momhelpingbyherself, Oct 05, 2005 01:09 PM [jenclink]
163609, jenclink, Oct 05, 2005 08:10 PM
163660, momhelpingbyherself, Oct 06, 2005 01:46 PM [jenclink]
163839, jenclink, Oct 08, 2005 07:27 AM
164026, momhelpingbyherself, Oct 10, 2005 02:04 AM [jenclink]
164039, jenclink, Oct 10, 2005 08:02 AM
164159, momhelpingbyherself, Oct 11, 2005 04:08 PM [jenclin...]
164245, jenclink, Oct 12, 2005 07:04 AM
168389, dp1, Dec 01, 2005 05:17 PM
168459, jenclink, Dec 02, 2005 10:01 PM [dp1]
168513, dp1, Dec 03, 2005 06:42 PM
168520, jenclink, Dec 03, 2005 08:47 PM
168572, dp1, Dec 04, 2005 06:23 AM
168655, momhelpingbyherself, Dec 05, 2005 04:27 PM [...]
168563, momhelpingbyherself, Dec 04, 2005 02:37 AM [...]
168637, dp1, Dec 05, 2005 12:56 PM
168742, momhelpingbyherself, Dec 07, 2005 03:07 PM [...]
168779, Valerie, Dec 07, 2005 05:57 PM
168837, anti, Dec 08, 2005 12:49 AM [...]
169686, momhelpingbyherself, Dec 17, 2005 07:55 PM [...]
163856, Rejected
168468, Quest, Dec 02, 2005 10:44 PM
168527, jenclink, Dec 03, 2005 09:46 PM
168627, sisterseekinghelp, Dec 05, 2005 07:23 AM
168841, PVulcan, Dec 08, 2005 01:01 AM [Jen]
169198, june5, Dec 11, 2005 09:00 AM
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