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Thread (Discussion): Pay for sex offender lists?
Message 130289
New and unable to understand
Posted by 3lifesntcs2hisfwyrs
on Apr 12, 2004 11:22 PM | Also by 3lifesntcs2hisfwyrs
| Gender: Female,
Age Bracket: 30 - 39,
State: California,
Country: United States |
I can't believe that we have to pay to know what type of people life in our communities or future residences. Especially criminals of this nature where children are involved. I think this information should come free as public online records for all to see. They are the ones that committed these horrid acts, not us.
My kids should know that they can FINALLY feel safe. Not have to keep worrying about this crap after their offender (their father) will only spend 7 years at most. *shaking head*
How is any of this justice for the children? I think they should have to go to trial so the people can hear what horrific acts were committed. Because if they heard the stories I hear on an almost daily bases as I learn more and more they would puke!
Venting on wanting safety information for a new area. I hope all are doing good and getting the support they need.
Praying for my sanity and life back in Cali.
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Message 130310 (In Reply to Message 130289)
Hello
Posted by dp1
on Apr 13, 2004 03:21 AM | Also by dp1
| Gender: Female,
Age Bracket: N/A,
State: Florida,
Country: United States |
Hello and welcome to this forum. Where do you have to pay to find out about registered sex offenders and how much may I ask? I am from Florida and it's all on the internet free of charge.
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Message 130353 (In Reply to Message 130289)
3life
Posted by Silverthorne
on Apr 14, 2004 08:27 AM | Also by Silverthorne
| Gender: Male,
Age Bracket: N/A,
State: Arizona,
Country: United States |
Welcome to the board. I'm aware California doesn't have an online registry but you can go into the sheriffs office and view the information there. Are you saying your country sheriff is charging to view the SO registry in your area?
If so can you tell us which county this is?
Silverthorne
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Message 132442 (In Reply to Message 130289)
doesnt work that way
Posted by poetsdreamscape
on May 02, 2004 08:05 PM | Also by poetsdreamscape
| Gender: Male,
Age Bracket: N/A,
State: N/A,
Country: United States |
I understand your anger but a registry doesnt keep your children safe at all .
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Message 132479 (In Reply to Message 132442)
Poet
Posted by dp1
on May 03, 2004 01:59 AM | Also by dp1
| Gender: Female,
Age Bracket: N/A,
State: Florida,
Country: United States |
I respect your opinion and you have the right to voice that opinion. However, sex criminals with issues are supposed to post in the general forum. This is the victim's forum. Please show some respect. Thank you.
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Message 135737 (In Reply to Message 130310)
dp
Posted by 3lifesntcs2hisfwyrs
on Jun 09, 2004 09:25 AM | Also by 3lifesntcs2hisfwyrs
| Gender: Female,
Age Bracket: N/A,
State: California,
Country: United States |
Sorry it's taken me so long but I couldn't figure out how to get back here. *smirk* Though I have been browsing the site here and there.
In Cali the registry is not free. There's a charge, thinking $20 (Though memory is gettin' old these days LOL). I think that all states should be free of charge.
Thank you for your response.
3life
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Message 135738 (In Reply to Message 130353)
Silver
Posted by 3lifesntcs2hisfwyrs
on Jun 09, 2004 09:30 AM | Also by 3lifesntcs2hisfwyrs
| Gender: Female,
Age Bracket: N/A,
State: California,
Country: United States |
Cali only has a SO map(s) (of participating cities/areas) on the web. My fiance` called in to ask about the information we viewed within a particular area and they can't give that info because of privacey (which they shouldn't have any of to begin with). Even going to the Sheriff's Dept. the charge of (I think it's) $20 applies. Though I am not sure what information is included.
Thank you for your response.
3life
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Message 135740 (In Reply to Message 132442)
Poet
Posted by 3lifesntcs2hisfwyrs
on Jun 09, 2004 09:45 AM | Also by 3lifesntcs2hisfwyrs
| Gender: Female,
Age Bracket: N/A,
State: California,
Country: United States |
I'm not saying the reg's keep children safe. However, it will inform my children, which fear for their lives by the way, if their father is in an area they are in are moving to. As well as others. This way they can also consider the ratio (or whatever you would like to call it) of how many are in a particular area, etc. when making the decision to or not to go there.
All I can hope for is to make their future as safe as I can by minimizing risks, doing more research, and more knowledgable etc. All I know is it's one of the most painfull things I have gone through thinking "I didn't keep them safe enough". Or what if this or that.
*shrug*
3life
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Message 135748 (In Reply to Message 135737)
Posted by dp1
on Jun 09, 2004 01:20 PM | Also by dp1
| Gender: Female,
Age Bracket: N/A,
State: Florida,
Country: United States |
Sorry it's taken me so long but I couldn't figure out how to get back here. *smirk*
Welcome back. With a username like that how could you possibly remember how to sign on? (LOL) I'd hate to see your password:-)
All kidding aside, I agree getting info on registrants should be free. We all need to figure out a way to do things more economically IMO. Some states pass the cost on to the offender. Although I am not necessarily against a nominal processing fee, I hope the cost to register doesn't deter SO's from registering.
Any solutions or ideas?
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Message 135750 (In Reply to Message 135737)
Posted by steve
on Jun 09, 2004 01:29 PM | Also by steve
| Gender: Male,
Age Bracket: N/A,
State: Virginia,
Country: United States |
3lifesntcs2hisfwyrs, actually there is free access to the California state sex offender registry, just not online. See the California Sex Offender Registry page of our site. If you click the link "How to obtain Megan's Law information" it will explain how to access the Megan's Law Web Application for free at viewing stations (many sheriff's offices and police departments throughout California). I've checked dozens of law enforcement web sites in California and all have mentioned that the service is free.
If you go back to the California page on our site, you'll see under "Telephone Access" that if you know the name of someone whose status you want to check on, you can call the Sex Offender Identification Hotline and for a $10 fee give up to 2 names and find out if they are registered sex offenders. It's not free, but it is an option.
If you scroll farther down the California page on our site, you'll see a section "California City and County Sex Offender Registries". If you click any of the listed cities or counties, it'll load a page on our site with information about that locality's public registry and links to get to it. In California, most of those listed just have pincushion sex offender maps which don't list names or actual addresses. Some show more than that. For example, San Jose shows the offender's name and street name (but not full address) when you click a red dot on their map. According to an April 21st article, Orange County to post more detailed sex offender information on Internet, the Orange County, California Board of Supervisors has authorized officials to post the street names and block numbers of high-risk sex offenders on a county web site, though last I checked they hadn't added that information to their online maps.
I hope that gives you a little better picture of what's available and what it costs.
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Message 135751 (In Reply to Message 135738)
Posted by steve
on Jun 09, 2004 01:32 PM | Also by steve
| Gender: Male,
Age Bracket: N/A,
State: Virginia,
Country: United States |
Even going to the Sheriff's Dept. the charge of (I think it's) $20 applies.
It should be free. If you find out there's a charge, please post info. here about which sheriff's office is charging and how much it is so we can help others by being aware of that. As far as I knew the Megan's Law Web Application which replaced the old CD-ROM application is accessible at most sheriff's offices and police precincts at least during scheduled hours and is free.
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Message 135754 (In Reply to Message 135737)
check it out
Posted by myoung
on Jun 09, 2004 02:28 PM | Also by myoung
| Gender: N/A,
Age Bracket: N/A,
State: Pennsylvania,
Country: United States |
conservative states like PA don't even have accessible lists. You can see the VSP on the web but there is only like one or two on there. Our wonderful SO assessment board decides whether the criminal is a VSP or not and as you can see, they usually choose not. Mostly, we are in the dark and can't find out anything here. It's garbage. Myself and some of the reps in my area have been trying to get that changed but, like I said, PA is a very conservative state and not ready for any type of changes. It's sad.
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Message 135762 (In Reply to Message 132442)
opinions
Posted by myoung
on Jun 09, 2004 04:46 PM | Also by myoung
| Gender: N/A,
Age Bracket: N/A,
State: Pennsylvania,
Country: United States |
keep in mind that it is only your opinon poet. We parents who have victim children will never agree with you fully. More work needs to be done but it's a start just like anything else. You must begin at the beginning.
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Message 135799 (In Reply to Message 130289)
Posted by looper
on Jun 10, 2004 01:57 AM | Also by looper
| Gender: Male,
Age Bracket: N/A,
State: Texas,
Country: United States |
CA residents should keep their eye on bill AB 488 now that the Battin Bill has been killed. AB 488 propses that an on-line registry would be provided for high risk and serious offenders. One thing though, it would make it a crime for a RSO in California to view the registry on-line. In my opinion, that is not fair. Does anyone know the status of this bill?
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Message 135805 (In Reply to Message 130289)
Posted by Navigatr1
on Jun 10, 2004 05:37 AM | Also by Navigatr1
| Gender: N/A,
Age Bracket: N/A,
State: N/A,
Country: United States |
3lifesntcs2hisfwyrs
I can't believe that we have to pay to know what type of people life in our communities or future residences.
Welcome to the board 3lifesntcs2hisfwyrs, and I am sorry to hear about what happened to your kids. I can understand your concern about having access to this information. I believe that all criminal records from misdemeanors to felonies are part of the public record and should be accessable for free. I don't care whether it happened as a juvenile or adult, it is still part of the public record. If we are to truly protect ourselves, and our kids, from whomever we consider undesirable, then we should be able to access to this information for free.
I understand that you live in California. How do you propose that access to criminal records be funded? Who should pay to provide this information? the offender? the person accessing it? Just something to think about.
--Navigatr1
CopWatch.com News Moderator
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Message 135848 (In Reply to Message 135750)
Thank you
Posted by 3lifesntcs2hisfwyrs
on Jun 10, 2004 06:32 PM | Also by 3lifesntcs2hisfwyrs
| Gender: Female,
Age Bracket: N/A,
State: California,
Country: United States |
to everyone for being so informative and kind.
Steve, I will check into the sites you have mentioned. However I think I have already been through them. But it never hurts to "do it again". With any luck I'll have time to check into after work at midnight. :D
3life
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Message 135849 (In Reply to Message 135805)
Nav
Posted by 3lifesntcs2hisfwyrs
on Jun 10, 2004 06:49 PM | Also by 3lifesntcs2hisfwyrs
| Gender: Female,
Age Bracket: N/A,
State: California,
Country: United States |
[How do you propose that access to criminal records be funded?]
I understand it takes money or whatever to provide this. The cost of paper and ink. However there are people that should be entitled to this type of information that might not have an extra $10 - $20+ for anything outside of necessities. Does that mean the less fortunate shouldn't be informed or educated? No we all pay enough taxes of which could go to this cause. Or better yet, I think instead of paying our prison inmates for being criminals take their gate money (or whatever others call it) and apply it towards these causes.
IMO criminals of this nature don't deserve to ever get out of prison. They are an OBVIOUS threat to all of soceity regardless of the age bracket they initially assult. My boss said it best when I had to take time off, make alternate work arrangements, etc. to make sure my kids were flown across country & back to me. He said, "People like this should be put under ground and left there."
Anyway, I guess that's my answer. The SO's should have to cover this. No one cared to take everything we had to put on a criminal's prison books. Take their $ .03 an hour and pay for this.
Of course this is only my HO.
3life
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Message 135852 (In Reply to Message 135849)
Posted by steve
on Jun 10, 2004 06:57 PM | Also by steve
| Gender: Male,
Age Bracket: N/A,
State: Virginia,
Country: United States |
Just a little heads-up for everyone - if you want to debate this issue, please do so over in the General Forum, not here in the Victims' Corner. I'm sure some of you with opposing views want to throw in your 2 cents, but don't do it here, do it in the General Forum. Thanks.
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Message 141476 (In Reply to Message 130289)
There are some sites you can see for free who is registered
Posted by witchywoman23
on Nov 23, 2004 02:10 AM | Also by witchywoman23
| Gender: Female,
Age Bracket: N/A,
State: Illinois,
Country: United States |
There are some sex offender registry sites that you don't have to pay for. The ones you do, they are just praying on you for money. I always go to the one for Illinois that is free. it does the same job as the ones you would pay for.
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Message 142754 (In Reply to Message 130289)
where?
Posted by anti
on Dec 26, 2004 09:45 PM | Also by anti
| Gender: N/A,
Age Bracket: N/A,
State: N/A,
Country: United States |
hello, where are you saying you have to pay to see a so list?
thank you, anti
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Message 142789 (In Reply to Message 142754)
California sex offender registry now online
Posted by steve
on Dec 27, 2004 03:26 PM | Also by steve
| Gender: Male,
Age Bracket: N/A,
State: Virginia,
Country: United States |
anti, I'm not sure if you noticed, but the original poster started this thread more than 8 months ago. I doubt you'll see a reply from her. If you look in her profile you'll see she's from California. Until a week ago, California did not have an online state sex offender registry. To access their registry before, a person had the following options:
1. Pay $10 to call the Sex Offender Identification Line and inquire on up to 2 names per call.
2. Pay $4 per name to check on 6+ people per time via mail.
3. Access one of dozens of individual city and county registry info. sites, most of which just showed pin maps of the general location of offenders' homes, not their names, addresses, offense details, etc. Only a handful list names or even have block numbers.
4. Visit a local police precinct to access the Megan's Law database. This is free, though the original poster was under the impression that it cost money.
As of last week, California made their California Sex Offender Locator Site live. As noted on that page, about 22,000 registered sex offenders are excluded from the site and only a little more than half o fthe 64,000 listed on the site have their address listed, with the other half showing their Zip code, city and county only.
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Message 142803 (In Reply to Message 142789)
Steve:
Posted by anti
on Dec 27, 2004 07:57 PM | Also by anti
| Gender: N/A,
Age Bracket: N/A,
State: N/A,
Country: United States |
ohh, I see, ok, yes I knew it was old, but noticed it and wanted to reply.........
did not ck her pro, re her location, sorry.............
and yes, you were correct, re ca.
sorry, my bad.
anti
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Message 143828 (In Reply to Message 141476)
are there others?
Posted by mydaughtersvoice
on Jan 14, 2005 03:27 AM | Also by mydaughtersvoice
| Gender: Female,
Age Bracket: N/A,
State: Arizona,
Country: United States |
I live in Arizona and every sex offender list I try to find for my state they want you to pay for. If I go tot he Ill. one, can I findout about Az?
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Message 143831 (In Reply to Message 143828)
Posted by steve
on Jan 14, 2005 03:57 AM | Also by steve
| Gender: Male,
Age Bracket: N/A,
State: Virginia,
Country: United States |
I live in Arizona and every sex offender list I try to find for my state they want you to pay for.
Arizona has a sex offender registry online, accessible for free. See rest of post below.
If I go tot he Ill. one, can I findout about Az?
No. Each state that maintains a sex offender registry, just maintains it for offenders living in that state who have registered (though some states do register offenders who were convicted in the state). But, back to your original problem, do this.
1. Look at the top of the page and click "Sex Offender Registry" in the menu (left, top of page).
2. In the middle of the page, you'll see a list of the 50 states, DC, and 2 Canadian provinces. Click "Arizona".
3. In the middle of the page under the heading "Online Sex Offender Registry / Online Directory", click the link labeled "Arizona Sex Offender InfoCenter".
4. On the left of that page (which is run by the Arizona Department of Public Safety) mouseover "SEARCH" on the left of the page.
5. Click "Name", "Address", "Zip" or "Absconder" depending on the search you want to do.
6. Follow the appropriate instructions.
I could have just given you the direct link, but I wanted to give you the steps for finding it via our Sex Offender Registry Directory since others who might read this thread would know how to find their state, city or county registry and I was hoping you could give some feedback if you've tried this here already or try it and have problems so that I can improve it to make it less confusing. Thanks.
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Message 143839 (In Reply to Message 143828)
Arizona
Posted by Silverthorne
on Jan 14, 2005 06:39 AM | Also by Silverthorne
| Gender: Male,
Age Bracket: N/A,
State: Arizona,
Country: United States |
The Arizona registry is free to access its maintained by DPS. The registry doesn't list "Level One" offenders as they have the lowest recidivism rate. Most (over 90%) family offenders (incest, etc) are "Level One" as the state has recognized they're much different from the typical "stranger danger" type offender and repeat offender who would be classified Level Two or Level Three.
Silverthorne
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Message 143884 (In Reply to Message 143828)
re arizona so list:
Posted by anti
on Jan 14, 2005 09:27 PM | Also by anti
| Gender: N/A,
Age Bracket: N/A,
State: N/A,
Country: United States |
http://az.gov/webapp/offender/main.do
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Message 157908 (In Reply to Message 142789)
Far and few between
Posted by 3lifesntcs2hisfwyrs
on Aug 03, 2005 09:57 AM | Also by 3lifesntcs2hisfwyrs
| Gender: Female,
Age Bracket: N/A,
State: California,
Country: United States |
but there are times I do still read these replies. Thank you for giving Anti the information requested as it helped me even. I didn't realize that Cali's site was up already. Thought we were still awaiting it. So a BIG HUGE thank you to you.
However, the suspect in our case is a S. C. resident and I have since found out that he was released and given freedom. He's been out 1 year and 4 months already and ONLY spent a total of 22 months without it. Pretty jacked up if you ask me. And well he was held in the beginning due to him being a flight risk and welp he has yet to register with the state of S. C. So it's only a matter of time before he heads towards TX and Cali which are where his victims (My children) all live.
Can we say, "UNJUSTICE"?
3life
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Message 157931 (In Reply to Message 157908)
Posted by steve
on Aug 04, 2005 01:10 AM | Also by steve
| Gender: Male,
Age Bracket: N/A,
State: Virginia,
Country: United States |
You're welcome. And thanks for staying in touch. It sounds as though you are saying that this person is required to register in South Carolina, but hasn't. Is that true? If so, he's likely breaking the law, possibly a felony (I don't know South Carolina's law offhand), and FTR (failure to register) could land him back behind bars if he's caught.
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130289, 3lifesntcs2hisfwyrs, Apr 12, 2004 11:22 PM [New and unable to understand]
130294, Rejected
130310, dp1, Apr 13, 2004 03:21 AM [Hello]
135737, 3lifesntcs2hisfwyrs, Jun 09, 2004 09:25 AM [dp]
135748, dp1, Jun 09, 2004 01:20 PM
135750, steve, Jun 09, 2004 01:29 PM
135848, 3lifesntcs2hisfwyrs, Jun 10, 2004 06:32 PM [Thank you]
135754, myoung, Jun 09, 2004 02:28 PM [check it out]
130332, Rejected
130353, Silverthorne, Apr 14, 2004 08:27 AM [3life]
135738, 3lifesntcs2hisfwyrs, Jun 09, 2004 09:30 AM [Silver]
135751, steve, Jun 09, 2004 01:32 PM
132442, poetsdreamscape, May 02, 2004 08:05 PM [doesnt work that way]
132479, dp1, May 03, 2004 01:59 AM [Poet]
135740, 3lifesntcs2hisfwyrs, Jun 09, 2004 09:45 AM [Poet]
135762, myoung, Jun 09, 2004 04:46 PM [opinions]
135799, looper, Jun 10, 2004 01:57 AM
135805, Navigatr1, Jun 10, 2004 05:37 AM
135849, 3lifesntcs2hisfwyrs, Jun 10, 2004 06:49 PM [Nav]
135852, steve, Jun 10, 2004 06:57 PM
141476, witchywoman23, Nov 23, 2004 02:10 AM [There are some sites you can see for fre...]
143828, mydaughtersvoice, Jan 14, 2005 03:27 AM [are there others?]
143831, steve, Jan 14, 2005 03:57 AM
143839, Silverthorne, Jan 14, 2005 06:39 AM [Arizona]
143884, anti, Jan 14, 2005 09:27 PM [re arizona so list:]
142754, anti, Dec 26, 2004 09:45 PM [where?]
142789, steve, Dec 27, 2004 03:26 PM [California sex offender registry now online]
142803, anti, Dec 27, 2004 07:57 PM [Steve:]
157908, 3lifesntcs2hisfwyrs, Aug 03, 2005 09:57 AM [Far and few between]
157931, steve, Aug 04, 2005 01:10 AM
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