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Thread (Discussion): about polygraph testing on teens - Question for Deedeeotz
Message 124135
about polyraph testing on teen pediphiles how accurate
Posted by deedeeotz
on Jan 01, 2004 05:45 AM | Also by deedeeotz
| Gender: Female,
Age Bracket: 30 - 39,
State: Missouri,
Country: United States |
my 7 year old daughter was raped and molested approx. 1year by her brothers best friend 14 years old. this boy was given the new polygraph test and passed. i cannot accept this. my daughter was very vivid in describing the details.. please help.
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Message 124157 (In Reply to Message 124135)
Welcome
Posted by dp1
on Jan 02, 2004 01:45 AM | Also by dp1
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State: Florida,
Country: United States |
Hello deedeeotz. Welcome to this forum. I am very to hear about your 7 year old daughter. My oldest daughter is also 7. I understand exactly what you are saying. A 7 year old couln't possibly describe a sexual act in detail unless they were taught something by someone now could they?
Can you tell us about the new polygraph test? How valid is it and does it have a lot of credibility in the eyes of the Court? Is there any physical evidence?
Orolan, do you have any comments regarding the new polygraph? Would it be considered "junk science" along with the others? Would it be possible for someone to lie with no deception indicated?
DP1
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Message 124166 (In Reply to Message 124135)
Posted by Silverthorne
on Jan 02, 2004 07:44 AM | Also by Silverthorne
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State: Arizona,
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Hi,
Sorry to here about your daughter. I hope she (and you) are seeing someone about it. As a rape victim myself as a child I know the parents often have feelings of guilt and need to get help (themselves) as well.
Can you tell us if this boy was charged / convicted or was this polygraph part of the procedure. How much credence is the prosecutor giving it?
Silverthorne
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Message 124176 (In Reply to Message 124135)
thank you for answering.
Posted by deedeeotz
on Jan 02, 2004 04:02 PM | Also by deedeeotz
| Gender: Female,
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State: Missouri,
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the polygraph given was the voice activated all they did was place a microphone on his collar and asked yes and no questions. how could he pass. my 7yo daughter is not lying there is no physical evidence but she is traumatized by this i now have to take her to a child phsychitrist because counseling is not working she needs meds. i know the polygraph does not hold up in court. but the police in this town worship this polygraph. i cannot believe this teen passed this also my 14 yo son accually walked in on his little sister and his best friend messing around this is how i found out.. i have very little faith in the polygraph but the boys parents believe this polygraph and thinks that we are all making this story up. my son is haveing a hard time in school with kids telling him hes made this story up because his friend passed the polygraph. im not sure of what the test is called. if any one know more info about this polygraph or knows a similar situation with this polygraph please let me know. this horrible act has happened to my daughter 5-7 times. i am so sick over this she is so embarressed and depressed. and i cant help her. and now it looks like this boy is going to get away with this because of the polygraph.. please help thank you deedee
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Message 124177 (In Reply to Message 124135)
"New" polygraph
Posted by orolan
on Jan 02, 2004 05:16 PM | Also by orolan
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deedeeotz,
First let me say that I am very sorry. Raping a 7 year-old is inexcusable, and should be dealt with harshly.
What you speak of is CVSA, or Computer Voice Stress Analysis. It is pure garbage, and has even less credibility than the standard polygraph. Even the American Polygraph Association, bastions of support that they are for lie-detectors, say it is highly inaccurate.
Your best bet at this time is to hound the prosecutor's office day and night. The results of the CVSA are inadmissable in court unless the prosecutor and the boy's attorney agreed to it prior to the test. Find out what the agreement was. Is there other evidence besides your daughter's testimony? Results of a physical examination, verifiable contact between the two of them, etc?
You might want to visit antipolygraph.org and do a little reading up on the fallacies and inaccuracies of polygraphs so that you have some "knowledge" of the subject when talking with the prosecutor.
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Message 124185 (In Reply to Message 124135)
Posted by Silverthorne
on Jan 02, 2004 07:55 PM | Also by Silverthorne
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State: Arizona,
Country: United States |
What exactly was "rape" in this case. If there was no physical evidence what exactly happend? (you dont have to get real specific but obviously this wasnt rape in the normal understanding).
If you want to learn more about how useless a polygraph is as a lie detector visit this webpage
http://www.stoppolygraph.com/
It just about says it all.
Silverthorne
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Message 124195 (In Reply to Message 124176)
Deedee
Posted by dp1
on Jan 03, 2004 01:00 AM | Also by dp1
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i have very little faith in the polygraph but the boys parents believe this polygraph and thinks that we are all making this story up.
I know this must really hurt you. I hope you focus on doing the right thing. The boy's parents are doing what they think is right which is supporting their son even if he did lie to them. He or the family may never admit any wrong doing. Win or loose it's important to get some type of closure so please stay strong. You are making memories for your daughter each and every day.
Dp1
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Message 124260 (In Reply to Message 124135)
Question for Deedeeotz
Posted by Silverthorne
on Jan 04, 2004 07:30 PM | Also by Silverthorne
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State: Arizona,
Country: United States |
D,
Can you tell us if the polygraph was done as part of the court process or if the boys parents got it done independently? Will it or was it used in the court proceeding at all? How much faith is the prosecutor putting in the polygraph?
Silverthorne
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124135, deedeeotz, Jan 01, 2004 05:45 AM [about polyraph testing on teen pediphiles how ac...]
124157, dp1, Jan 02, 2004 01:45 AM [Welcome]
124166, Silverthorne, Jan 02, 2004 07:44 AM
124176, deedeeotz, Jan 02, 2004 04:02 PM [thank you for answering.]
124195, dp1, Jan 03, 2004 01:00 AM [Deedee]
124177, orolan, Jan 02, 2004 05:16 PM ["New" polygraph]
124178, Rejected
124185, Silverthorne, Jan 02, 2004 07:55 PM
124260, Silverthorne, Jan 04, 2004 07:30 PM [Question for Deedeeotz]
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