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Thread (Discussion): Re: Addiction definition? - Re: Addiction definition?
Message 118189 Re: Addiction definition?
Posted by x_LJ
on Oct 13, 2003 08:50 PM | Also by x_LJ
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Could "addiction"--including sex addiction in any form; i.e, thoughts,inclinations, etc.--be defined as a disorder in motivation within an individual? Any thoughts?
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Message 118201 (In Reply to Message 118189) Re: Addiction definition?
Posted by x_anti
on Oct 14, 2003 02:09 AM | Also by x_anti
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yes, I think so.
anti
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Message 118213 (In Reply to Message 118189) Re: Addiction definition?
Posted by x_orolan
on Oct 14, 2003 11:03 AM | Also by x_orolan
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Any "addiction" would qualify as a disorder. Keep in mind that addictions are not limited to "bad" things like drugs, alcohol, sex, etc. For example, child pornography can be an addiction. But so can surfing the net to find and report it, if the efforts are such that they begin to interfere with a person's normal everyday life.
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Message 118219 (In Reply to Message 118189) Depends
Posted by x_Silverthorne
on Oct 14, 2003 12:49 PM | Also by x_Silverthorne
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Motivation may not be the right word because it implies choice. Most people don't have the ability to choose their thoughts (especially involuntary ones).
If anyone has seen the movie "A Beautiful Mind" with Russell Crowe (greatly exaggerated but still a good movie) they'll remember this scene.
Nash and the nobel guy are in the dining room at the college and he's telling Nash about the Nobel Prize nomination. Nash confesses he "is crazy, I take the latest medications, but I still see things that are not here, I simply choose to not acknowledge them".
This is powerful stuff. It acknowledges that people while maybe not having the ability to control involuntary thoughts CAN control what they do with them.
Silverthorne
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Message 118246 (In Reply to Message 118219) Re: Depends
Posted by x_LJ
on Oct 14, 2003 07:29 PM | Also by x_LJ
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Silverthorne:
That's the point I was trying to make. Those who "CAN control what they do with them" do so out of a motivation within themselves.
A full commitment to change is not only a cause of recovery but often the largest part of recovery itself. In a sense, all addiction treatments are ways of improving motivation.
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Message 118258 (In Reply to Message 118189) Re: Addiction definition?
Posted by x_SurvivorForeve
on Oct 15, 2003 01:39 AM | Also by x_SurvivorForeve
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Yes!
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Thread 118189, x_LJ, Oct 13, 2003 08:50 PM [Re: Addiction definition?] 118201, x_anti, Oct 14, 2003 02:09 AM [Re: Addiction definition?] 118213, x_orolan, Oct 14, 2003 11:03 AM [Re: Addiction definition?] 118219, x_Silverthorne, Oct 14, 2003 12:49 PM [Depends] 118246, x_LJ, Oct 14, 2003 07:29 PM [Re: Depends] 118258, x_SurvivorForeve, Oct 15, 2003 01:39 AM [Re: Addiction definition?]
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