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Forum: Old Message Board
Thread (Discussion): "no" means "no"...or maybe "more wine?"
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Message 118316 (In Reply to Message 118303)
Re: "no" means "no"...or maybe "more wine?"
Posted by x_marta
on Oct 16, 2003 07:45 PM | Also by x_marta
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lost time wrote:
>
> It was his 3 year old daughter. She did not understand what
> they were asking her.
You brought up the fact that evidentiary rules have been changed to allow hearsay, as though you were talking about one adult testifying to the fact that a different adult got raped. This, I agree, is unacceptable, unless the person testifying was an eyewitness to the rape.
I am not, however, so suspicious of child psychologists or social workers that I believe they should not be able to interview children and testify on their behalf. While they are not my FAVORITE people in the whole world, I do not have an image of these professionals as evil, hairy goblins who revel in locking up potentially innocent people and depriving children of their parent in the process.
You're also forgetting that this person (child-psych/welfare professional) can NOT get up there and say that a rape occurred IN FACT. Just like a physician, all s(he) can say is that the evidence s(he) found was, or was not, consistent with a child who has been raped/molested. If the professional testifies that the child said the rape occurred, it had better be consistent with the court transcripts of his/her interview with the child. If the professional acted unethically by leading/bullying the child into saying a rape occurred, it will be apparent in the same transcript, which the JURY WILL READ. All of this, taken with the testimony of the accused, character witnesses, defense's experts, etc., is, in my opinion, highly unlikely to result in a conviction where one is not warranted.
> I did not go to the trial but several of my coworkers did.
This is of consequence, no?
> The things other people could testify to hearing were vague at > best and required several leaps of faith to get to sexual
> assault.
And they were . . . ?
> Also, the CPS worker was allowed to sit at the prosecutor's
> table as co-counsel.
Not unless she's also a lawyer. If she is not and she sat at the prosecutor's table, it was as a witness.
> The DA also managed to get the mother's
> diary, where the child said She was talking about daddy
> putting cream on her when she was sore, supressed as hearsay
> so the jury never saw or heard that.
How would this help the guy? Where was he applying it? If you don't know, it's not clear to me why you brought this up.
> The more I hear and read about this trial the madder I get.
All I can say is that neither of us is there in the courtroom, and even if we were, we wouldn't know everything necessary to make a decision. Only the jury does. I am confident in the ability of 12 people to come up with the right answer based on the evidence.
Why not get more information before you get angry?
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Message 118303
Re: "no" means "no"...or maybe "more wine?"
Posted by x_losttime
on Oct 16, 2003 01:53 AM | Also by x_losttime
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118093, x_simon, Oct 12, 2003 03:58 PM ["no" means "no"...or maybe &qu...]
118098, x_SurvivorForeve, Oct 13, 2003 02:19 AM [Re: "no" means "no&quo...]
118125, x_HPierce, Oct 13, 2003 08:25 AM [well considering.]
118150, x_marta, Oct 13, 2003 11:08 AM [Re: well considering.]
118138, x_orolan, Oct 13, 2003 10:14 AM [Re: "no" means "no"...or ...]
118164, x_marta, Oct 13, 2003 04:36 PM [Re: "no" means "no"...o...]
118173, x_orolan, Oct 13, 2003 07:13 PM [Re: "no" means "no"...]
118192, x_marta, Oct 13, 2003 10:13 PM [Re: "no" means "no&quo...]
118216, x_orolan, Oct 14, 2003 12:12 PM [Re: "no" means "no...]
118236, x_marta, Oct 14, 2003 04:00 PM [Re: "no" means "...]
118247, x_orolan, Oct 14, 2003 07:31 PM [Re: "no" means &...]
118252, x_marta, Oct 14, 2003 08:41 PM [Re: "no" means...]
118265, x_losttime, Oct 15, 2003 05:11 AM [Re: "no"...]
118267, x_marta, Oct 15, 2003 09:36 AM [Re: "no"...]
118303, x_losttime, Oct 16, 2003 01:53 AM [Re: "no...]
118316, x_marta, Oct 16, 2003 07:45 PM [Re: "n...]
118320, x_losttime, Oct 17, 2003 01:09 AM [Re: &...]
118334, x_marta, Oct 17, 2003 08:06 PM [Re: &...]
118312, x_orolan, Oct 16, 2003 12:33 PM [Re: "no" m...]
118317, x_marta, Oct 16, 2003 07:48 PM [Re: "no"...]
118325, x_orolan, Oct 17, 2003 11:35 AM [Re: "no&q...]
118335, x_marta, Oct 17, 2003 08:19 PM [Re: "n...]
118339, x_orolan, Oct 17, 2003 09:45 PM [Re: &qu...]
118347, x_marta, Oct 19, 2003 04:57 AM [Re:]
118351, x_orolan, Oct 19, 2003 06:56 PM [Re:]
118358, x_marta, Oct 20, 2003 01:01 PM [Re...]
118361, x_orolan, Oct 20, 2003 02:31 PM [...]
118365, x_marta, Oct 20, 2003 06:13 PM [...]
146015, Rejected
118188, x_losttime, Oct 13, 2003 08:29 PM [Re: "no" means "no&quo...]
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