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Thread (Discussion): "no" means "no"...or maybe "more wine?"


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Message 118188 (In Reply to Message 118164)
Re: "no" means "no"...or maybe "more wine?"


Posted by
x_losttime on Oct 13, 2003 08:29 PM | Also by x_losttime
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This data is from the USDOJ.

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/soo.pdf

Figure 12 on page 18 shows that of the men arrested for rape in 6 states in 1990, 20% were not prosecuted, 29% had their charges dismissed, 48% were convicted, 2% were aquitted and 1% fall into an "other" category. To talk about juries siding with either side, only contested cases are relevant. They report that 80% of the convictions were by guilty pleas. That leaves 20% of 48% = a little over 9% convicted in trial. 9% convicted to 2% acquitted is a fairly large lopside in favor of the plaintiff. BUT, you still can't draw any big conclusion as it does not break down the cases into types. There is no way from this data to know what evidence was presented at how many of these trials. It is entirely possible that the 2% aquittals were all he said/she said and the 9% trial convictions had better evidence. It is equally possible, and in my opinion likely, that the ones with good evidence were the ones that plead guilty and that the 11% contested cases probably had lower amounts of evidence. From everything I've seen and heard, slam dunk cases don't go to trial.

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Message 118164
Re: "no" means "no"...or maybe "more wine?"


Posted by x_marta on Oct 13, 2003 04:36 PM | Also by x_marta
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118093, x_simon, Oct 12, 2003 03:58 PM ["no" means "no"...or maybe &qu...]
      118098, x_SurvivorForeve, Oct 13, 2003 02:19 AM [Re: "no" means "no&quo...]
      118125, x_HPierce, Oct 13, 2003 08:25 AM [well considering.]
            118150, x_marta, Oct 13, 2003 11:08 AM [Re: well considering.]
      118138, x_orolan, Oct 13, 2003 10:14 AM [Re: "no" means "no"...or ...]
            118164, x_marta, Oct 13, 2003 04:36 PM [Re: "no" means "no"...o...]
                  118173, x_orolan, Oct 13, 2003 07:13 PM [Re: "no" means "no"...]
                        118192, x_marta, Oct 13, 2003 10:13 PM [Re: "no" means "no&quo...]
                              118216, x_orolan, Oct 14, 2003 12:12 PM [Re: "no" means "no...]
                                    118236, x_marta, Oct 14, 2003 04:00 PM [Re: "no" means "...]
                                          118247, x_orolan, Oct 14, 2003 07:31 PM [Re: "no" means &...]
                                                118252, x_marta, Oct 14, 2003 08:41 PM [Re: "no" means...]
                                                      118265, x_losttime, Oct 15, 2003 05:11 AM [Re: "no"...]
                                                            118267, x_marta, Oct 15, 2003 09:36 AM [Re: "no"...]
                                                                  118303, x_losttime, Oct 16, 2003 01:53 AM [Re: "no...]
                                                                        118316, x_marta, Oct 16, 2003 07:45 PM [Re: "n...]
                                                                              118320, x_losttime, Oct 17, 2003 01:09 AM [Re: &...]
                                                                                    118334, x_marta, Oct 17, 2003 08:06 PM [Re: &...]
                                                      118312, x_orolan, Oct 16, 2003 12:33 PM [Re: "no" m...]
                                                            118317, x_marta, Oct 16, 2003 07:48 PM [Re: "no"...]
                                                                  118325, x_orolan, Oct 17, 2003 11:35 AM [Re: "no&q...]
                                                                        118335, x_marta, Oct 17, 2003 08:19 PM [Re: "n...]
                                                                              118339, x_orolan, Oct 17, 2003 09:45 PM [Re: &qu...]
                                                                                    118347, x_marta, Oct 19, 2003 04:57 AM [Re:]
                                                                                          118351, x_orolan, Oct 19, 2003 06:56 PM [Re:]
                                                                                                118358, x_marta, Oct 20, 2003 01:01 PM [Re...]
                                                                                                      118361, x_orolan, Oct 20, 2003 02:31 PM [...]
                                                                                                            118365, x_marta, Oct 20, 2003 06:13 PM [...]
                        146015, Rejected
                  118188, x_losttime, Oct 13, 2003 08:29 PM [Re: "no" means "no&quo...]

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