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Thread (Discussion): Moral Equivalent?

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Message 118370 (In Reply to Message 118363)
Re: Moral Equivalent?


Posted by x_marta on Oct 21, 2003 09:10 AM | Also by x_marta
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orolan wrote:
>
> "It's your job to fight it, not the government's."
> Then why is filing a false report against the law? Why is
> perjury against the law? If these are civil issues, there
> shouldn't be criminal statutes that prohibit them. But since
> there are statutes, I am entitled to that "security" under
> them that you speak of.

The fact that an alleged criminal is acquitted does not mean that there is sufficient evidence of a malicious motive on the part of the accuser in filing the report. It certainly does not mean that the report was automatically false. The state does not believe (and neither do I) that malicious reports will go undetected. It is my belief that while it may be clear to you that the woman maliciously filed a false report, unless the same is clear to others involved in the case, it's up to you to prove it.



> "Then what does?"
>
> Society, as I spelled out in the paragraph you don't
> understand . . .

And society is composed of? ? ?


> Society dictates change. But society can't all talk at once.

Yes "it" can, and, to varying degrees over time, "it" does.


> A few individuals try to express what society wants, and I
> see myself as one of those individuals.

Thank god we live in a democracy.


> Actually, you asked a very generic "And what laws are you
> suggesting?"

Except that in BOTH of the remaining threads on the board that you and I are having a discussion, the topic revolves around prosecution of women who maliciously file charges.



> "What is the "lack of chastity" defense?"
> Come on now. You're the one in law school. And you don't know
> what this is?

What is with you people who aren't in law school???? What makes you think that a rising second year law student is going to know every stupid defense ever written into law, in every part of the country? I don't know about the lack of chastity defense because it is a retarded argument for reducing the culpability of an adult for having sex with a minor. That's why I don't know about it.


> Incidentally, the Mississippi Code still contains this
> language, relevant not to statutory rape but "adult" rape:
> ...but no person shall be convicted upon the uncorroborated
> testimony of the injured female.
>
> Our number one Rule of Evidence for he said/she said rape
> situations.

What is your problem with getting a man and a woman in a room and letting them tell their stories of what occurred? It is my opinion that if the only thing supporting a finding of rape is the woman's word, she's going to lose, unless there are substantial credibility problems with the accused, and the woman is CLEARLY telling the truth.

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Message 118363
Re: Moral Equivalent?


Posted by x_orolan on Oct 20, 2003 03:41 PM | Also by x_orolan
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118055, x_marta, Oct 10, 2003 06:17 PM [Moral Equivalent?]
      118128, x_HPierce, Oct 13, 2003 09:03 AM [Yes]
            118165, x_marta, Oct 13, 2003 04:38 PM [I wasn't asking you.]
            118166, x_marta, Oct 13, 2003 04:42 PM [But while we're at it]
      118145, x_TryingtoSurviv, Oct 13, 2003 10:59 AM [Re: Moral Equivalent?]
            118171, x_marta, Oct 13, 2003 07:08 PM [Re: Moral Equivalent?]
                  118321, x_SurvivorForeve, Oct 17, 2003 01:11 AM [Re: Rape VS BS]
                        118336, x_marta, Oct 17, 2003 08:28 PM [Re: Rape VS BS]
                              118340, x_SurvivorForeve, Oct 17, 2003 11:11 PM [Re: What to do!]
            118185, x_marta, Oct 13, 2003 07:44 PM [Trying to Survive]
            118243, x_marta, Oct 14, 2003 06:25 PM [That's What I Thought]
            118245, x_orolan, Oct 14, 2003 07:20 PM [Re: Moral Equivalent?]
                  118253, x_marta, Oct 14, 2003 08:45 PM [Re: Moral Equivalent?]
                        118275, x_orolan, Oct 15, 2003 10:50 AM [Re: Moral Equivalent?]
                              118292, x_marta, Oct 15, 2003 08:07 PM [Re: Moral Equivalent?]
                                    118300, x_orolan, Oct 15, 2003 11:28 PM [Re: Moral Equivalent?]
                                          118318, x_marta, Oct 16, 2003 07:59 PM [Re: Moral Equivalent?]
                                                118327, x_orolan, Oct 17, 2003 12:04 PM [Re: Moral Equivalent?]
                                                      118338, x_marta, Oct 17, 2003 08:40 PM [Re: Moral Equivalent?]
                                                            118350, x_orolan, Oct 19, 2003 11:57 AM [Re: Moral Equival...]
                                                                  118353, x_marta, Oct 19, 2003 08:14 PM [Re: Moral Equiv...]
                                                                        118363, x_orolan, Oct 20, 2003 03:41 PM [Re: Moral ...]
                                                                              118370, x_marta, Oct 21, 2003 09:10 AM [Re: Mora...]
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