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Thread (Discussion): Moral Equivalent?

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Message 118321 (In Reply to Message 118171)
Re: Rape VS BS

Posted by x_SurvivorForeve on Oct 17, 2003 01:11 AM | Also by x_SurvivorForeve

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marta wrote:
>
> I agree. It is yet another contribution to the hysteria
> about sex. They also harm victims of actual rape by creating
> doubt in reasonable people's minds about ANY rape claim.
> Another relevant, and related point though, is that people
> who keep insisting, in the face of well-supported arguments
> to the contrary, that false rape accusations are higher than
> they actually are, are in effect doing the same thing the
> feminazis do when they claim that false rape accusations are
> lower than they actually are. Claiming artificially high/low
> levels of false rape accusations causes some percentage of
> people, when they discover the deception, to stop paying
> attention to the debate alltogether. The less certain people
> are of what the real data is, the less likely they are to
> care at all.
>

Marta,
You are so correct.
Ironically, if we all look and the number of women who post to this board alone, who are looking for help in a rape situation., what is the first thing MOST of the posters say????They don’t believe them at all.

Survivor

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Message 118171
Re: Moral Equivalent?

Posted by x_marta on Oct 13, 2003 07:08 PM | Also by x_marta

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trying to survive wrote:

> I know where you are going with this one but will answer
> honestly.

I respect and appreciate you trying to remain objective.

> False rape claims that do not finger an innocent
> party only bolster the case of feminazis in the broader
> political sense -

I agree.  It is yet another contribution to the hysteria about sex.  They also harm victims of actual rape by creating doubt in reasonable people's minds about ANY rape claim.  Another relevant, and related point though, is that people who keep insisting, in the face of well-supported arguments to the contrary, that false rape accusations are higher than they actually are, are in effect doing the same thing the feminazis do when they claim that false rape accusations are lower than they actually are.  Claiming artificially high/low levels of false rape accusations causes some percentage of people, when they discover the deception, to stop paying attention to the debate alltogether.  The less certain people are of what the real data is, the less likely they are to care at all.

> Complainants that give a name and a face do so for the same
> reasons and I dont think they realise the harm they do to
> another human being and hence I do not call them "morally
> reprehensible" - just dangerous and out of hand. They are too
> dim witted to know and that isnt their fault.

Oh, I emphatically disagree.  The only possible mitigating circumstance for such an act is mental illness (and I'm not just talking about depression).  I don't believe that women who do this are just dumb.  I believe that they are liars, that they are likely people who can not be trusted in many other situations because of their lack of maturity and responsibility, AND that they are ignorant, in bad circumstances, etc.  I guess I'm saying that you shouldn't insult all the good, honest poor people who, even if backed into a corner, would never falsely accuse a person of anything, much less rape, by claim poverty and bad circumstances are sufficient explanation for such accusations.

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118055, x_marta, Oct 10, 2003 06:17 PM [Moral Equivalent?]
      118128, x_HPierce, Oct 13, 2003 09:03 AM [Yes]
            118165, x_marta, Oct 13, 2003 04:38 PM [I wasn't asking you.]
            118166, x_marta, Oct 13, 2003 04:42 PM [But while we're at it]
      118145, x_TryingtoSurviv, Oct 13, 2003 10:59 AM [Re: Moral Equivalent?]
            118171, x_marta, Oct 13, 2003 07:08 PM [Re: Moral Equivalent?]
                  118321, x_SurvivorForeve, Oct 17, 2003 01:11 AM [Re: Rape VS BS]
                        118336, x_marta, Oct 17, 2003 08:28 PM [Re: Rape VS BS]
                              118340, x_SurvivorForeve, Oct 17, 2003 11:11 PM [Re: What to do!]
            118185, x_marta, Oct 13, 2003 07:44 PM [Trying to Survive]
            118243, x_marta, Oct 14, 2003 06:25 PM [That's What I Thought]
            118245, x_orolan, Oct 14, 2003 07:20 PM [Re: Moral Equivalent?]
                  118253, x_marta, Oct 14, 2003 08:45 PM [Re: Moral Equivalent?]
                        118275, x_orolan, Oct 15, 2003 10:50 AM [Re: Moral Equivalent?]
                              118292, x_marta, Oct 15, 2003 08:07 PM [Re: Moral Equivalent?]
                                    118300, x_orolan, Oct 15, 2003 11:28 PM [Re: Moral Equivalent?]
                                          118318, x_marta, Oct 16, 2003 07:59 PM [Re: Moral Equivalent?]
                                                118327, x_orolan, Oct 17, 2003 12:04 PM [Re: Moral Equivalent?]
                                                      118338, x_marta, Oct 17, 2003 08:40 PM [Re: Moral Equivalent?]
                                                            118350, x_orolan, Oct 19, 2003 11:57 AM [Re: Moral Equival...]
                                                                  118353, x_marta, Oct 19, 2003 08:14 PM [Re: Moral Equiv...]
                                                                        118363, x_orolan, Oct 20, 2003 03:41 PM [Re: Moral ...]
                                                                              118370, x_marta, Oct 21, 2003 09:10 AM [Re: Mora...]

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