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Message 117747 (In Reply to Message 117721)
Re: Confused?

Posted by x_Rob on Oct 07, 2003 01:43 PM | Also by x_Rob

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This is further information as to my previous post on the issues of Arnold.

I tracked down the original article which made the claims, it was published in the L.A. Times on 10-2-2003 and if it is still available, here is the link to it:

http://www.latimes.com/classified/jobs/news/la-me-women2oct02001424,0,4081730.st
ory?coll=la-class-employ-jobnews

My previous point was, it was a smear campaign, and it was, but not by the women. The L.A. Times was doing a story about Arnold's history of "gruff actions towards women" (guess it could be called many other things, but this too is a public forum), and in the process of interviewing women in Arnold's past, these claims surfaced.

So, the fact that it surfaced just before the election, was a move by the newspaper, a smear campaign. A few days later another newspaper reported more claims by other women. see: http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/news/politics/6937976.htm

Assuming that those newspapers have reported "facts" correctly and not colored them as they so often do, there is more than enough "facts" to say, where there is smoke there is a fire; there is a problem and many women have been mistreated. Said that way because I do not claim to be judge and jury.

OK, now I'll turn back to my previous post "Why would the women come forward just before the election?"

Lets eliminate "just before the election" because that clearly was done by the newspaper and not the women. Lets review "Why the women would not come forward before this point in time?"

In another post of mine "The Many Faces of Man" which also meant "The Many Faces of Women" (read the post to understand), I pointed out that "sometimes it is better to leave things unsaid; ...," clearly these women felt that way when these incidents occurred to them (for whatever reason it was their choice and I won't question it). These women wore the "face of a victim" at that point in their life.

All these facts bring me to a clearer understanding which is all I wanted. Thanks to Marta's post...
Rob

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Message 117721
Re: Confused?

Posted by x_Rob on Oct 07, 2003 02:48 AM | Also by x_Rob

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OK, I did say "to my knowledge no one has come forward" at the time I wrote the post, and in fact today at this time, I still have not found a newspaper article identifying any woman that has said anything.

So, I'm going to ask for your help, please give me a link to a newspaper article so I may read it and have a better understanding of what that woman is saying.

Further, you indicated the following:
>Not that I care either way, but women alleging misconduct have >in fact spoken with the newspapers. That, and the candidate's >own affirmative defense of his behavior, pretty much rules out >a smear campaign in my mind.

I can understand a woman never coming forward (for personal reasons or fears, etc.), I can understand a woman coming forward to law enforcement, I can understand a woman going to get counseling, but here is where I need some help in understanding:

Why would a woman go to a newspaper/s just days before the election, when she could have done that at any point, even before the person was a candidate?   Please focus on her motive or reasoning.

What can the newspaper do to help her, only at the point of the election?

Your insight to these issues will help me understand something I'm obviously missing, and please believe me when I say I am willing to learn.  Any help is sincerely appreciated.

Thank you,
Rob

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117639, x_poetsdreamscap, Oct 06, 2003 12:52 AM [AHHHHHHHnold the sex offender]
      117660, x_Silverthorne, Oct 06, 2003 01:36 AM [Confused?]
            117669, x_Rob, Oct 06, 2003 04:47 AM [Re: Confused?]
                  117672, Rejected
                  117679, x_orolan, Oct 06, 2003 11:16 AM [Re: Confused?]
                        117714, x_MrTruth, Oct 06, 2003 10:28 PM [Re: Confused?]
                        118390, x_poetsdreamscap, Oct 23, 2003 05:23 AM [Re: Confused?]
                  117708, x_marta, Oct 06, 2003 09:18 PM [Re: Confused?]
                        117721, x_Rob, Oct 07, 2003 02:48 AM [Re: Confused?]
                              117747, x_Rob, Oct 07, 2003 01:43 PM [Re: Confused?]
                                    117761, x_SurvivorForeve, Oct 07, 2003 07:28 PM [Re: Newspapers]
                        117732, x_orolan, Oct 07, 2003 09:38 AM [Re: Confused?]
                              117768, x_SurvivorForeve, Oct 07, 2003 08:04 PM [Re: Confused?]
      117715, x_SurvivorForeve, Oct 06, 2003 10:39 PM [Re: AHHHHHHHnold the sex offender]
            117716, Rejected
            117717, x_DoTheCrimeDoTh, Oct 07, 2003 12:26 AM [Total Recall]
      117720, x_anti, Oct 07, 2003 12:56 AM [Re: AHHHHHHHnold the sex offender]
            117733, x_orolan, Oct 07, 2003 09:42 AM [Re: AHHHHHHHnold the sex offender]
                  117737, x_anti, Oct 07, 2003 10:48 AM [Re: AHHHHHHHnold the sex offender]
                        117769, x_orolan, Oct 07, 2003 08:08 PM [Re: AHHHHHHHnold the sex offender]

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