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Message 112110 (In Reply to Message 112092)
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Posted by x_HPierce on Jul 01, 2003 11:56 PM | Also by x_HPierce

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Casey says:
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First and foremost is the fact that you go into this "relationship" with alot more knowledge then the girl does. At least with another peer, they are both just as inexpierenced as the other one. It would be awkward, and weird, and for anyone whoms sexual drive hasn't started, it would be fuled by curiousity.
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You consider knowledge an issue? I would agree with you if it was a NON-consensual relationship and I'm using my experience to coerce her to have sex, that is one thing. However, you and I know that isn't the type of relationship we are talking about.
But ok.. lets take your comments and go from there. Obviously you are aware there are teens that much more experienced than other teens. In fact there are teens sexually more experienced than many adults. Would you say it is a healtier for a teen girl to get involved with a 'dreamy' classmate who has quickly learned that girls his age are easy if you give them a few lines and promises? Top that off he and she aren't really sure they understand safe sex (since the moralists won't allow sex ed in school).

Now consider a 45 year-old man and 15 year old girl. Your issue is he is more knowledgeable. Ok, she may at first feel inadaquate but an experienced lover won't be giggling at her questions etc. He/she will try to make her feel at ease. The adult is in a better position to delay having sex if he/she feels the teen is rushing things or for the wrong reasons. Who better than an adult to squelch misconceptions of poor birth control and/or safe sex.

So I'm left feeling the adult/minor relationship has more to offer in regards to a healthy, happy relationship that includes sex than maybe possible with a peer.

H. Pierce (proud pedosexual)

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Message 112092
Re: Have to see both sides

Posted by x_Casey on Jul 01, 2003 06:31 PM | Also by x_Casey

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""Can I ask in a polite way what you feel these issues are? Put the fact that it is illegal to the side. I ask that because I think that is the only issue there is. Without it being illegal there isn't anything I'd be taking to the relationship that doesn't get brought to any peer relationship involving sex.

H. Pierce (proud pedosexual)""

First and foremost is the fact that you go into this "relationship" with alot more knowledge then the girl does.  At least with another peer, they are both just as inexpierenced as the other one.  It would be awkward, and weird, and for anyone whoms sexual drive hasn't started, it would be fuled by curiousity.

Society teaches that (love = sex) so IMHO this is why kids are even curious about sex in the first place.  You watch two people on "Days of Our Lives" in a bed, ontop of each other, and they are naked, and they say to each other "I love you."  To a child lacking affection they remember that.  Clearly.  And they will start making it apart of their lives.  "If someone does that to me, it means they REALLY love me."  This causes confusion for their future relationships with peers.

By a girl learning this type of stuff from you it would be basically the same outcome.  She will look back at her childhood and think "While my friends were outside playing and hanging out, I was having sex with this older guy."  She could very well come to hate herself, believing it was her fault, because you had never forced her to have sex.  And girls are even more emotionally unstable then guys, and because of society sex is usually very special to them, as where with guys we are taught, the more scores the merrier.

If you look at a battered woman, she keeps going back truly believing that the guy loves her, and it was her fault he beat her.  Unconditional love.  Women usually hang onto this much better then men through life.  And all children have it, because they have not been taught that there is a limit to love.  So a child will actually want to have sex, one to make you happy, or because it makes them FEEL loved.  Of course they will actually initiate the sexual contact as well on occasion.  So that only helps to make people believe that "they wanted it, I didn't ask or force them."

Something else to think about is humans can adapt.  ANd that basically sums up all the problems we have in society.  People will adapt when one thing dosen't seem to work.  Children are no different.  "If mom and dad are not paying attention to me for being good, then I will misbehave to get it."  Adapting.  We all do it, and we may not even notice the change.  If a child has an "adult friend" they will probably feel more loved then they were before that, so adapting to the sex is worth it to them.

The only reason childen and even teenagers will have so much sex is because they feel unloved in some capacity.  By you or any other adult having a sexual relationship with them we further help to plant into their heads that sex is love.  All most guys want anymore is to "Do it."  As where females are looking for more but give in, because its some of the only time they can get any attention.

If sex was love, if without having sex, we could not love, then we would be having sex with friends, parents, grandparents, the dog (no comment) and anything else we loved.

Peace,
Casey

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111989, x_HPierce, Jun 28, 2003 07:41 PM [Pedophile can't be punished for thoughts]
      111990, x_Silverthorne, Jun 28, 2003 08:14 PM [About Time]
            111993, x_HPierce, Jun 28, 2003 11:16 PM [I agree]
            111994, x_Casey, Jun 28, 2003 11:22 PM [Re: About Time]
                  112003, x_HPierce, Jun 29, 2003 10:29 AM [Good and bad]
                        112020, x_Casey, Jun 30, 2003 01:59 PM [Re: Good and bad]
                              112034, x_HPierce, Jun 30, 2003 11:18 PM [Not really, Casey]
                                    112054, x_Casey, Jul 01, 2003 03:42 AM [Re: Not really, Casey]
                                          112063, x_HPierce, Jul 01, 2003 11:22 AM [thanks Casey]
                                                112066, x_Casey, Jul 01, 2003 12:37 PM [--_--]
                                                      112084, x_HPierce, Jul 01, 2003 03:19 PM [Have to see both sides]
                                                            112092, x_Casey, Jul 01, 2003 06:31 PM [Re: Have to see bo...]
                                                                  112110, x_HPierce, Jul 01, 2003 11:56 PM [Thanks for th...]
                                                                        112152, x_Katie, Jul 03, 2003 02:02 AM [?? adult/mi...]
                                                                              112165, x_HPierce, Jul 03, 2003 11:00 AM [We alr...]
                                                                              112178, x_Casey, Jul 03, 2003 04:21 PM [Re: ?? a...]
                                                                                    112185, x_anti, Jul 03, 2003 06:31 PM [Re: ??...]
                                                                                          139978, paulina831, Sep 23, 2004 08:17 AM
      111991, x_simon, Jun 28, 2003 08:57 PM [Re: Pedophile can't be punished for thoughts]
      112018, x_CJ, Jun 30, 2003 12:09 PM [Re: Pedophile can't be punished for thoughts]
            112025, x_Sisco, Jun 30, 2003 03:41 PM [Re: Good and bad]
                  112035, x_HPierce, Jun 30, 2003 11:22 PM [I'm glad you support my postion.]
            112030, x_HPierce, Jun 30, 2003 09:49 PM [Re: Pedophile can't be punished for thoughts]
      112106, x_Silverthorne, Jul 01, 2003 09:46 PM [Not a danger?]
            112111, x_HPierce, Jul 02, 2003 12:02 AM [I agree]

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