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Message 112054 (In Reply to Message 112034)
Re: Not really, Casey

Posted by x_Casey on Jul 01, 2003 03:42 AM | Also by x_Casey

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What's funny is you sound like you have an addiction. You talk the same way anyone does when addicted to something. It is not I, but you whom refuse to see the truth. Unfortunately, until someone falls way down, they usally do not see what they are doing.

My conclusions are my own. I hate shrinks, and I follow no religions, no Oprah or CNN or JOhn walsh influenced my decisions. I followed my heart.

What you do in your own mind, home, with yourself is your own buisness H. And I hope you never touch a girl. The second you do you are gonna get ripped apart, and seeing all the stories and the laws that come across this place and on the news, you were informed. And you have been informed well. I was 17 when I commited my crime. It was consensual, but that didn't make it right. I was not informed. I am now. And you haveing been a father... I can't imagine why you cannot see.

Your long-winded when you write your responses, which only means your constantly trying to convience yourself that your right. You sound like a teenager explaining sex, "It feels good."

Hey look, do what ya want. But I would suggest you take a time-out and look for the answers from whatever source you want. Reach deep down inside yourself and really think about where you are, and where you are heading.

And btw morals are not directly derived from religion. I have no religion, but I still have morals. Which again come from my heart.

Peace,
Casey

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Message 112034
Not really, Casey

Posted by x_HPierce on Jun 30, 2003 11:18 PM | Also by x_HPierce

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Casey says:
>>>
You still have sexual contact with a minor, and that is illegal and unmoral. I understand your state of mind, because I was there, but it is incorrect.
>>>
It is illegal and it maybe immoral but one is a society law and the other is a religious/sociological view.  Neither reflect 'what is good or bad', only what society wants as good and bad.  Perhaps you remember from history, prohibition?  Booze was illegal and immoral.  What finally happened?  People came to their senses and prohibition was struck down.  Alcohol in itself isn’t immoral or illegal anymore.  There is great damage a person can do if they drink too much or allow it to run their life, but responsible people know better.  The same is true of adult/minor relationships.  You can try to tell me they are illegal and immoral and I will tell you the laws need to change, as do the uneducated, immature attitudes towards it.  I’ve seen numerous adult/minor relationships flourish with very positive endings.  I’ve had many other relationships told to me by people I trust.  They had no reason to embellish the story to paint a happy ending.

You were never where I am.  I’ve never been in your state of mind.  I have never committed a sexual offense.  That is the big difference in our state of minds.  Yes what you did was illegal.  I don’t know your story so I won’t comment if it was correct or not.

Casey says:
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There is no such thing as a healthy "sexual" relationship with a minor. 
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Hmm that’s odd, They were always healthy and happy for the last hundred thousand years or so until about 75 years ago.  No, what is happened is SOCIETY WON’T ALLOW PEOPLE TO BELIEVE IN HEALTHY SEXUAL RELATIONSHIPS WITH A MINOR.  It happens all around them, has since the beginning of man, but society believes anything that is told them loud enough and often enough.  I know for a fact that there are healthy relationships with minors.

Casey says:
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But adults have sexual drives, children do not
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That is 100% incorrect.  Children are sexual beings and everyone to some degree is sexual from birth.  I’ve noticed a lot of 10 year old girls that have raging hormones.  I could tell you about boys and girls that begin their sexual exploration at an even earlier age. I’m a father and I have raised children of my own so I too know quite a bit about children and watched them grow up.  That being said, I’ve also mentioned that it should be child that decides when they are ready for sexual intimacy. Kids need to be kids as long as they desire. No one should be introducing sexual intimacy until it is the child that is doing the initiating and expresses a desire.  Maybe that is another reason I don’t find girls younger than about 10 sexual.  They usually aren’t ready or looking for sex before that age.  Responsible pedosexuals understand this just as adults understand when the one they love isn’t ready yet.  Most pedosexuals do not endorse making the child uncomfortable and allow the child to control the pace of the relationship.  Again you confuse a molester who coerces, or persuades a child into doing what they want (selfish) compared to what RESPONSIBLE pedosexual would do.  This should be obvious to you.

Casey says:
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Play the feild? It's more like boys are not gay and they want to have girlfriends. BY all means H, have friendships with these boys, god knows some of them desperately need it, but having sex with them is only gonna further confused there lifes.
>>>

Huh?  Number one I’m a girl lover.  I’m not gay.  Number two, boys want to get in girl’s pants and also have them be their girlfriends.  Girls want sex but don’t want to come across as being easy but they want it just like the boys do.  That is why there is so much teen sex.  Sex in itself will never mess up a minor’s life if they wanted the sex and consented to it.  It doesn’t mess them up when they have it with their teen boyfriends/girlfriends (we are all proof of that) and unless you have some scientific data that can show that while teens in sexual relationships with peers suffer no ill effects, those who engage with adults do because what?  The age of the penis?  Come on!  I’ve already stated that in a consensual relationship, there IS NO DIFFERENCE IN THE POTENTIAL OUTCOME OF THE RELATIONSHIP REGARDLESS OF EITHER PARTNERS AGE.   You know it, everyone knows it.. they just can’t accept it.  Anything else doesn’t even make sense.  I’ve seen numerous relationships with no messed up teens or children.

Casey says:
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And that is why you are having sex with kids H. Because you have that "days of our lives" sex scene in your head. As most humans do. LOVE is just there. Sex is reproduction. Seperated the two, you will be alot happier. 
>>>

Well no, I’ve never had sex with a child or perhaps you have forgot that.  Sex is more that reproduction.  I don’t know what shrink has brainwashed you, but it is a very real and important facet in most people’s lives.  It is also pleasurable, you forgot that.  People like sex, Casey.  If they didn’t you sure wouldn’t hear so much about in our music, see it in our TV and movies.  Separate the two?  Well men are kind of like that anyway.  I can fantasize about having sex with a lovely tween girl  but my wife says someone she didn’t have feelings for could never arouse her.  I think society is pushing for less separation and more sex should be an extension of love.   But I’ll try your approach next time I’m horny.  “Honey, no foreplay tonight….. I’m suppose to separate love from sex….What didn’t you hear?  Sex has nothing to do with love….. So baby, make SEX to me!.  I think I know where I’d be sleeping.  Can I ask if this idea of sex and love being separate is something you picked up from Sunday school or your S.O. counseling?   At any rate I can enjoy sex without love (I remember those occasions before being married), but sex is much more fulfilling when it is with someone you care for.  So again I say I don’t put credence in this notion.  I’d bet most other non-sexually repressed moralistic who aren’t living in denial, wouldn’t either.

Casey ends with:
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Real World? The one you have created. It does not make it right. Same for any other person and their own reality.
>>>

The world I refer to is the one I see all around me. The one made up of mostly good people and some nasty ones.  It’s the one I see, not the one I’m led to believe in because someone on CNN said so, or Oprah said so.  I have a mind I can read, and I can draw my own conclusions as well as validate them with others.  It’s the one I’ve come to recognize without the blinders and self-denial you are under.  I see the good and I see the bad.  I know what is right and what is wrong.  Likewise I know what should be allowed and what is perpetrated as the truth is often the lies society wants us to believe.  If the laws allowed me I would simply be friends and lover of a girl until she WAS ready for something more.  If that was 18.. so be it.. if it was 8 so be it.  Her body and mind isn’t set to the “Eighteen year old “ rule imposed for no purpose except for morality sake.

H. Pierce (proud pedosexual)

Thread

111989, x_HPierce, Jun 28, 2003 07:41 PM [Pedophile can't be punished for thoughts]
      111990, x_Silverthorne, Jun 28, 2003 08:14 PM [About Time]
            111993, x_HPierce, Jun 28, 2003 11:16 PM [I agree]
            111994, x_Casey, Jun 28, 2003 11:22 PM [Re: About Time]
                  112003, x_HPierce, Jun 29, 2003 10:29 AM [Good and bad]
                        112020, x_Casey, Jun 30, 2003 01:59 PM [Re: Good and bad]
                              112034, x_HPierce, Jun 30, 2003 11:18 PM [Not really, Casey]
                                    112054, x_Casey, Jul 01, 2003 03:42 AM [Re: Not really, Casey]
                                          112063, x_HPierce, Jul 01, 2003 11:22 AM [thanks Casey]
                                                112066, x_Casey, Jul 01, 2003 12:37 PM [--_--]
                                                      112084, x_HPierce, Jul 01, 2003 03:19 PM [Have to see both sides]
                                                            112092, x_Casey, Jul 01, 2003 06:31 PM [Re: Have to see bo...]
                                                                  112110, x_HPierce, Jul 01, 2003 11:56 PM [Thanks for th...]
                                                                        112152, x_Katie, Jul 03, 2003 02:02 AM [?? adult/mi...]
                                                                              112165, x_HPierce, Jul 03, 2003 11:00 AM [We alr...]
                                                                              112178, x_Casey, Jul 03, 2003 04:21 PM [Re: ?? a...]
                                                                                    112185, x_anti, Jul 03, 2003 06:31 PM [Re: ??...]
                                                                                          139978, paulina831, Sep 23, 2004 08:17 AM
      111991, x_simon, Jun 28, 2003 08:57 PM [Re: Pedophile can't be punished for thoughts]
      112018, x_CJ, Jun 30, 2003 12:09 PM [Re: Pedophile can't be punished for thoughts]
            112025, x_Sisco, Jun 30, 2003 03:41 PM [Re: Good and bad]
                  112035, x_HPierce, Jun 30, 2003 11:22 PM [I'm glad you support my postion.]
            112030, x_HPierce, Jun 30, 2003 09:49 PM [Re: Pedophile can't be punished for thoughts]
      112106, x_Silverthorne, Jul 01, 2003 09:46 PM [Not a danger?]
            112111, x_HPierce, Jul 02, 2003 12:02 AM [I agree]

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