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Message 112030 (In Reply to Message 112018)
Re: Pedophile can't be punished for thoughts

Posted by x_HPierce on Jun 30, 2003 09:49 PM | Also by x_HPierce

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Gee CJ.

CJ says:
>>>>
While I do find your fascination with the sexuality of children repugnant.......
>>>

I don't really have a facination with the child sexuality. I am however attracted to minors and find them sexy in the same balanced way that many adults including myself find other adults sexy. The fact that I'm forever correcting many of you people's myths about adult/minor relationships is only an indication that I won't stand for lies and myths being spread.

The rest of what you said I agree with. We should never be punished or denied freedoms simply because of what we think. I believe you gave some good examples.

And yes the reaction of the therapist and P.O. undermines the programs requirements for people confess or state what they are feeling. I can't picture too many people giving any answer except what the therapist wants to hear from this point on. He/she has ruined what little credibility they ever possessed.

H. Pierce (proud pedosexual)

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Message 112018
Re: Pedophile can't be punished for thoughts

Posted by x_CJ on Jun 30, 2003 12:09 PM | Also by x_CJ

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HP,

While I do find your fascination with the sexuality of children repugnant, it is beyond me how anyone can believe that a person can be convicted of a crime for THINKING unacceptable thoughts!  Is there anyone who hasn't ever had a fight with a neighbor, co-worker, or other acquaintance who has not had a momentary fantasy about blowing his/her head off with a shotgun (or other murderous action)?  Should we be convicted of murder just because we thought about it?  The Constitution in this country says we must DO something before we can be punished.  I vaguely remember something like, "I disagree with what you say, but shall defend to the death your right to say it!"  (In this case, I disagree with that you think, but will defend until the death your right to think it!)

I read the citation posted by Simon and noted something that seems to have been overlooked.  John Doe had the fantasy, removed himself from the presence of the children in the park, went to his therapist, and discussed/worked through the episode.  Personally, I find that a pretty laudable behavior!  Without knowing the details of his prior conviction, one could assume that he had performed an illegal sexual act with a child at an earlier time . . . to be able to realize another act might be in the process of triggering, remove himself, and seek professional help BEFORE re-offending says to me that this offender may truly be one of the rehabilitated ones!

With this kind of continuing persecution, why should any offender seek help to work through troubling thoughts BEFORE anyone is injured?  Given the scenario in the newspaper article, the offender would be better off to keep such troubling thoughts to himself and risk re-offending rather than seeking support to NOT re-offend.  The logic seems contrary to what those who feel the urgent need "to protect children" seem to be demanding.

Another example of the hysteria continuing and the urgent need for healing for EVERYONE in these situations.  Fear breeds fear; hatred breed hatred; hysteria breeds hysteria.

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111989, x_HPierce, Jun 28, 2003 07:41 PM [Pedophile can't be punished for thoughts]
      111990, x_Silverthorne, Jun 28, 2003 08:14 PM [About Time]
            111993, x_HPierce, Jun 28, 2003 11:16 PM [I agree]
            111994, x_Casey, Jun 28, 2003 11:22 PM [Re: About Time]
                  112003, x_HPierce, Jun 29, 2003 10:29 AM [Good and bad]
                        112020, x_Casey, Jun 30, 2003 01:59 PM [Re: Good and bad]
                              112034, x_HPierce, Jun 30, 2003 11:18 PM [Not really, Casey]
                                    112054, x_Casey, Jul 01, 2003 03:42 AM [Re: Not really, Casey]
                                          112063, x_HPierce, Jul 01, 2003 11:22 AM [thanks Casey]
                                                112066, x_Casey, Jul 01, 2003 12:37 PM [--_--]
                                                      112084, x_HPierce, Jul 01, 2003 03:19 PM [Have to see both sides]
                                                            112092, x_Casey, Jul 01, 2003 06:31 PM [Re: Have to see bo...]
                                                                  112110, x_HPierce, Jul 01, 2003 11:56 PM [Thanks for th...]
                                                                        112152, x_Katie, Jul 03, 2003 02:02 AM [?? adult/mi...]
                                                                              112165, x_HPierce, Jul 03, 2003 11:00 AM [We alr...]
                                                                              112178, x_Casey, Jul 03, 2003 04:21 PM [Re: ?? a...]
                                                                                    112185, x_anti, Jul 03, 2003 06:31 PM [Re: ??...]
                                                                                          139978, paulina831, Sep 23, 2004 08:17 AM
      111991, x_simon, Jun 28, 2003 08:57 PM [Re: Pedophile can't be punished for thoughts]
      112018, x_CJ, Jun 30, 2003 12:09 PM [Re: Pedophile can't be punished for thoughts]
            112025, x_Sisco, Jun 30, 2003 03:41 PM [Re: Good and bad]
                  112035, x_HPierce, Jun 30, 2003 11:22 PM [I'm glad you support my postion.]
            112030, x_HPierce, Jun 30, 2003 09:49 PM [Re: Pedophile can't be punished for thoughts]
      112106, x_Silverthorne, Jul 01, 2003 09:46 PM [Not a danger?]
            112111, x_HPierce, Jul 02, 2003 12:02 AM [I agree]

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