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Message 146252 (In Reply to Message 146207)
valdosta2

Posted by LockEmUp on Feb 26, 2005 05:03 PM | Also by LockEmUp

Gender: Male, Age Bracket: 40 - 49, State: New Jersey, Country: United States

Thanks for the reply. I respect the law, as well, and applaud the efforts of honest police officers. Of what I've read on the PJ site, most of the "busts" aren't referred to LE, but handled by the site members. I see your point about what you call "harassment" (postering, etc.), but it is not a form of law, but a form of informing others that a friend, family member, or co-worker likes to "date" children. I disagree with you about the notifications being ineffective. Most of the busts have the same argument as RSOs regarding their information being posted; they do not like it. That's understandable, but like I stated in my last post - if you do not want to be exposed as a child stalker, do not stalk children.

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Message 146207

Posted by valdosta2 on Feb 25, 2005 08:49 PM | Also by valdosta2

Gender: Female, Age Bracket: N/A, State: N/A, Country: United States

I understand your point of view very well. I think men who spend their nights trying to obtain sex from young teenage girls are deplorable, pathetic, and prosecutable.

However, I respect the law. I think there is a reason that people are rigorously trained and accredited to enforce our laws and uphold due process. I am very glad that the bodies that uphold the law are accountable and subject to review and discipline.

If I wanted to catch pedophiles and prosecute them, I would become a police officer or a lawyer. I would spend years learning the rules and *ethics* of these professions, and I would be subject to scrutiny by my peers and superiors. If I were an at-home amateur, I would contact the law enforcement and ask them how I could go about helping in an ethical way, like Julie Posey did.

I do not believe that postering, constant phone-calling, emailing, and harassment is a form of law I could support. I don't think it's evil - those PJ people are really well-meaning - it's just ineffective. From what I understand, LE sees them as a harmless crew of lonely zealots with occasionally useful information. My father is a cop, and he wonders why these poor people just don't go out and become real officers.

I guess the victims of their harassment don't see it as harmless, but like you, I haven't much sympathy for men who try to meet up with a 12-14 year old girl. I do however, have a lot of respect for the trained, educated, and disciplined men and women of law enforcement, and for the law itself.

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134448, admin, May 21, 2004 08:53 AM [Introduction]
      134470, mystik, May 21, 2004 08:06 PM [Absolutely not]
            134487, Navigatr1, May 21, 2004 10:13 PM
                  151935, mysticfyre, May 18, 2005 05:34 PM [Absoultely Not]
            134575, LostTime, May 22, 2004 11:26 PM [training]
            138501, serenity2004, Aug 08, 2004 07:32 AM [mystik]
                  138508, dp1, Aug 08, 2004 03:17 PM [serentity2004]
      138928, HPierce, Aug 19, 2004 10:10 PM [They do it anyway]
            139310, artie, Sep 01, 2004 12:58 AM [agree]
            144302, anti, Jan 22, 2005 06:07 PM [re hp, sick as usual...]
            144329, oioi, Jan 22, 2005 09:23 PM [HPierce]
                  146026, texas, Feb 23, 2005 06:24 AM
                        146060, texas, Feb 23, 2005 04:52 PM
                              146118, LockEmUp, Feb 24, 2005 02:06 PM [texas]
                                    146127, orolan, Feb 24, 2005 05:37 PM
                                          146131, LockEmUp, Feb 24, 2005 09:01 PM [orolan]
                                                146147, orolan, Feb 25, 2005 01:14 AM
                                                      146156, LockEmUp, Feb 25, 2005 04:07 AM [orolan]
                                                            146158, steve, Feb 25, 2005 04:56 AM
                                                                  146201, LockEmUp, Feb 25, 2005 05:14 PM [steve]
                                                                        146253, steve, Feb 26, 2005 05:05 PM
                                                                              146264, LockEmUp, Feb 26, 2005 08:44 PM [steve]
                                                                                    146285, orolan, Feb 27, 2005 04:23 PM
                                                                                          146294, LockEmUp, Feb 27, 2005 08:53 PM [o...]
                                                                              146281, orolan, Feb 27, 2005 04:02 PM
                                                                        146283, orolan, Feb 27, 2005 04:15 PM
                                                                              146295, LockEmUp, Feb 27, 2005 09:06 PM [orolan]
                                                                              165814, anti, Oct 30, 2005 03:17 AM [orlan]
                                                            146207, valdosta2, Feb 25, 2005 08:49 PM
                                                                  146252, LockEmUp, Feb 26, 2005 05:03 PM [valdosta2]
                                                                        156451, mawmaw, Jul 17, 2005 08:15 AM
                              165813, anti, Oct 30, 2005 03:12 AM [no]
                  146036, myoung, Feb 23, 2005 01:45 PM [never tell oioi]
                        146052, 1dadof5, Feb 23, 2005 03:38 PM
            149438, littlebird, Apr 11, 2005 11:26 PM [This is sick]
      138930, Rejected
      147929, monkey4u, Mar 24, 2005 04:27 AM
      151529, dbac, May 10, 2005 02:40 AM [absolutely]
            151561, orolan, May 10, 2005 05:47 PM
                  151572, dp1, May 10, 2005 10:26 PM
                  165815, anti, Oct 30, 2005 03:20 AM [lol ohh my orlan, pleasee get a real life.]
            151708, orolan, May 14, 2005 04:32 AM

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