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Message 171824 (In Reply to Message 171739)

Posted by Renunciation on Jan 21, 2006 06:48 PM | Also by Renunciation

Gender: N/A, Age Bracket: 40 - 49, State: N/A, Country: Bahrain

And so it begins, as I stated, things are afoot that are far bigger than most of us here.

Public lists are very close to going away. LE will soon register ALL arrestees, regardless of convictions, but the lists will be kept private EXCEPT when private citizens pay a hefty "fee" to have access to the material.

Please people, anyone who understands Americans knows what is the driving force for these changes.......... money

Local governments and states can create a true profit center by closing off the public lists, the hysteria is so great now that billions of dollars in revenue is waiting to be received from people willing to pay to snoop on their neighbors....... instead of spending 50-70% of a budget monitoring and registering 1% of the criminals, they can actually profit.....

The fear and hysteria has been created, now they can close off the lists, and start charging, because people are so scared, they will pay and pay and pay and cannot complain because there will be no increase in taxes...

CA will use this ploy to help offset their deficit.

The Feds might screw up the entire mess tho............. hehehe

Renny

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Message 171739

Posted by tomcat1 on Jan 21, 2006 07:32 AM | Also by tomcat1

Gender: Male, Age Bracket: 40 - 49, State: Kansas, Country: United States

The system for registering sexual offenders has been deemed by the 9th circut of the federal court of appeals to be punitive in function, if not intent. This imortant distinction has important ramifications. The overwhelming majority of offenders who are required to register, are not violent and their crimes were not against minors/children. However, this is where the afore mentioned court ruling becomes paramount. By making the roles of offenders reqired to register show no distinction between those who have actually done prison time; a distinction between crimes not of child/minor nature; most importantly a distinction between those whom professionals have deemed as "preditor" and those who are not, we actually leave people with a false sense of sucurity. The latent intent of the sexual offender lists is punitive, not to imform. Federal government studies, which now have several years data to work with, have at best shown inconclusive results and at it worst, that they do not make society significantly safer.  Because of rampant vigilantyism against, not only those who have payed there penalties, but also other family members and, more importantly, against the small children of those who carry the modern eqivilant of a scarlet letter on them due to having their profiles posted. We ultimately then, are not served by having as system that even the federal court of appeals has determined is punitive and doesn't appear to do more than give society a false sense of saftey and, most surely, a sense of being in control over their and theri family members lives. A graduated system with only the most dangerous offenders being required to have their data and photo posted on the web, is sorely needed. The others could still be reqired to register, however, only the most dangerous would be publicly displayed on the web.

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121946, admin, Nov 19, 2003 04:30 PM [Introduction]
      143832, taytay22, Jan 14, 2005 04:09 AM [yes]
            143856, dp1, Jan 14, 2005 02:27 PM
      143879, taytay22, Jan 14, 2005 05:36 PM [to,, dp1]
            143887, oioi, Jan 14, 2005 09:53 PM [certain offenses]
                  143989, orolan, Jan 16, 2005 04:07 PM [oioi]
                        144004, dp1, Jan 16, 2005 09:39 PM
      143962, anti, Jan 15, 2005 08:55 PM [re your poll steve...]
      144010, taytay22, Jan 16, 2005 11:21 PM
      147931, monkey4u, Mar 24, 2005 04:29 AM
            148004, newmind6, Mar 25, 2005 07:40 AM [Registries, tool or punishment]
                  159563, cala, Aug 23, 2005 10:48 PM
      148137, RiverCyan, Mar 27, 2005 07:49 AM
            148659, orolan, Apr 01, 2005 02:42 AM
                  148728, newmind6, Apr 01, 2005 11:05 PM
            159592, Valerie, Aug 24, 2005 02:53 AM
                  159674, orolan, Aug 25, 2005 01:33 AM
      159676, HaveSeenAllSides, Aug 25, 2005 01:52 AM [Poll response]
            162957, H76356, Sep 29, 2005 05:17 AM
                  163130, HaveSeenAllSides, Oct 01, 2005 03:01 AM
      162830, Scaye, Sep 27, 2005 04:49 PM
      171739, tomcat1, Jan 21, 2006 07:32 AM
            171801, Valerie, Jan 21, 2006 04:50 PM
            171803, Valerie, Jan 21, 2006 04:55 PM
            171824, Renunciation, Jan 21, 2006 06:48 PM
            171911, youtoo, Jan 23, 2006 06:35 AM
      171861, indisaray, Jan 22, 2006 06:23 PM

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