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Message 155967 (In Reply to Message 155939)

Posted by PVulcan on Jul 13, 2005 07:02 AM | Also by PVulcan

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So what is he doing to help himself? What is he doing to seek counselling? Why are you seeking counselling for him? You said he's a successful business, so he's not a derilect, why are you doing all the leg work? Is he actually in counselling or no?

I would like to be able to offer you words on how to support him after molesting his daughter, but I really don't know how to. I guess if this is a committed relationship and you see a future with this man you could attend counselling with him? Obviously this has upset your world and your kids and there are sites for partners of sex offenders to get support. I don't know what those sites are, but someone here will know them.

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Message 155939

Posted by confusedgf on Jul 12, 2005 06:46 PM | Also by confusedgf

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<blockquote><span class="mb-quote"> Is it healthy for a women to get emotionally involved with a sex offender if she has kids?</span></blockquote>

dp, what part of "I did NOT know he was a sex offender when I met him and became involved" do you not understand?

What part of "NO ONE except him and his daughter knew he was a sex offender  when I met him" do you not understand?

What part of "I did not GET involved with a child molester but with a handsome, successful business man whom I would LATER learn would be charged with molesting his daughter" do you not understand?

What part of "I have ALWAYS and will continue to keep my daughters safe at all cost" do you not understand?

What part of "I care about him and his family and want them ALL to get the help they need" do you not understand?

What part of "I, too, need help in dealing with the pain and suffering all of us are going through" do you not understand?

You indicate that you have children and do not date sex offenders...hmmm...in April of this year I could have said the same thing...and THOUGHT I was making a factual statement. That's not the case now. So what do you do when you care about a good person who has done a bad thing (you seem to agree based on another of your posts that good people can do  bad things, even sex offenders).

If you'll recall, my original post here was "what do you think about punitive versus corrective measures?" I didn't say no one should be punished for molesting children...I didn't say HE was totally innocent...I didn't say "I agree with everything he's done and he just had a bad day that's all." I asked, rather, WHAT measures should be taken to CORRECT A PROBLEM. I did not say it is NOT a problem! I did not say HE does not have a problem...

Please stop with the bashing...stop with the "let's arrest this person for helping a child molester get counseling because he's after her children." Let's stop with placing people in boxes and keeping them there. Instead, would it not be more beneficial to address my questions with positive, effective answers...suggestions for programs that might help us all?

Look for a moment at what you write in response to one of  "dad's" postings, referring to me:

<blockquote><span class="mb-quote">For crying out loud this guy molested his own daughter and this lady with kids is going with him. This is not a joking matter. You see how she pouted and ran.</span></blockquote>

Definitely a mature, supportive response, don't you think? I don't ask you to agree with my decision to try to help him in finding corrective measures, but don't portray me to be the blinded-by-love girlfriend who is dressing my little girls in thongs and training bras, having them prance around in front of him, leaving the room so he can get his jollies, and then returning to say, "Oh, I trust you with her..I know you would never harm her because you love me." Get real! I am not offering my children as sacrifices to some monster because I love him!  And see how I pouted and ran?!! Or, could it have been that I don't appreciate being attacked in a public forum where no one, not even you, knows the details of the situation (including my or my children's contact with this person).

No, I don't expect you to agree with me...two months ago *I* wouldn't have agreed with me or anyone else taking this stance. However, it is different when you walk in the shoes...perhaps you would make a different decision..perhaps you would throw him back to the wolves (whatever caused the problem to start with) to fend for himself...perhaps you would come here and brag as to how you did it. I'm not you! That doesn't make me wrong and you right. That doesn't make my children any less safe than yours.

dp, you're in a position to make a positive influence on a lot of lives. Please take that opportunity to be helpful.

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121936, admin, Nov 19, 2003 04:30 PM [Introduction]
      151940, mysticfyre, May 18, 2005 06:15 PM [Pictures]
      151951, orolan, May 18, 2005 08:52 PM
            151969, innermostfrustrated, May 19, 2005 12:51 PM [pictures]
                  153236, meister82, Jun 08, 2005 04:23 PM
                        155113, mawmaw, Jul 04, 2005 05:31 PM
                              155193, orolan, Jul 05, 2005 01:09 PM
                                    155342, mawmaw, Jul 06, 2005 10:42 PM
                                          156255, 1dadof5, Jul 15, 2005 07:21 AM
                                    155343, mawmaw, Jul 06, 2005 10:47 PM
                                          155392, 1dadof5, Jul 07, 2005 02:25 PM
                                    155491, confusedgf, Jul 08, 2005 07:50 PM
                                          155496, dp1, Jul 08, 2005 09:22 PM
                                                155497, confusedgf, Jul 08, 2005 10:28 PM
                                                      155505, dp1, Jul 09, 2005 02:47 AM
                                                            155521, confusedgf, Jul 09, 2005 02:02 PM
                                                                  155583, dp1, Jul 09, 2005 08:05 PM
                                                                        155617, Rejected
                                                                        155618, mawmaw, Jul 09, 2005 11:31 PM
                                                                              155761, confusedgf, Jul 11, 2005 11:24 AM
                                                                                    155841, dp1, Jul 12, 2005 04:11 AM [mawmaw]
                                                                                          155902, confusedgf, Jul 12, 2005 02:14 PM [mawmaw and d...]
                                                                                                155908, dp1, Jul 12, 2005 02:51 PM
                                                                                                      155939, confusedgf, Jul 12, 2005 06:46 PM
                                                                                                            155967, PVulcan, Jul 13, 2005 07:02 AM
                                                                                                                  155974, dp1, Jul 13, 2005 08:56 AM
                                                                                                                        156031, confusedgf, Jul 13, 2005 03:06 PM
                                                                                                                  156030, confusedgf, Jul 13, 2005 03:03 PM
                                                                                                            156018, dp1, Jul 13, 2005 01:54 PM
                                                                                                                  156034, confusedgf, Jul 13, 2005 03:09 PM
                                                                              155792, 1dadof5, Jul 11, 2005 07:01 PM
                                                                                    155840, dp1, Jul 12, 2005 04:08 AM [Dad]
                                                                              156253, 1dadof5, Jul 15, 2005 07:17 AM
                                                                        155760, confusedgf, Jul 11, 2005 11:19 AM
                                                                              155844, dp1, Jul 12, 2005 04:36 AM
                                                                                    155896, confusedgf, Jul 12, 2005 01:45 PM
                                                                                    155899, confusedgf, Jul 12, 2005 02:02 PM
                                                                                          155910, dp1, Jul 12, 2005 03:04 PM
                                                                                                155941, confusedgf, Jul 12, 2005 06:51 PM
                                                                                                      155964, dp1, Jul 13, 2005 04:25 AM
                                                                                          155915, steve, Jul 12, 2005 03:18 PM [Priv...]
                                                                                                155942, confusedgf, Jul 12, 2005 06:54 PM
                                                                                                      156252, 1dadof5, Jul 15, 2005 07:10 AM [what makes me...]
                                                      155576, PVulcan, Jul 09, 2005 06:49 PM
                                                            155762, confusedgf, Jul 11, 2005 11:36 AM
                                                            156292, confusedgf, Jul 15, 2005 04:40 PM [Referenced info...]
      155440, Scaye, Jul 08, 2005 05:24 AM
            155620, Rejected
            155632, Scaye, Jul 10, 2005 01:22 AM
      155441, Scaye, Jul 08, 2005 05:25 AM
      155955, Teft, Jul 13, 2005 01:53 AM
            156256, 1dadof5, Jul 15, 2005 07:27 AM

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