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Thread (Discussion): Poll 1005 - Can sex offender treatment be successful at preventing sexual reoffenses? - no

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Message 121926
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Posted by admin on Nov 19, 2003 04:30 PM | Also by admin
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Discuss Poll 1005 - Can sex offender treatment be successful at preventing sexual reoffenses?

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Message 151938 (In Reply to Message 121926)
Absolutely


Posted by mysticfyre on May 18, 2005 06:02 PM | Also by mysticfyre
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The process that the Sex Offenders go thru is enough to make anyone stop and think about how they possible can live there life and those that stand beside them because it doesnt only affect the Offender it also affects there loved ones and friends around them. Going through this type of treatment you have no personal life to yourself, if your married your Husband/Wife is included in this procedure to find out all the personal things about your sex life and even more in depth then I can put into words. If your nor married or seeing anyone during this treatment process you will not graduate to the next step. One of the requirements is that the Offender be involved in a meaningful relationship with someone, its not a choice if you want to bring someone in the situation you are currently in ITS A REQUIREMENT! So in the process of this you ahve to find someone who looks past the mistakes that you made and know in there heart that the treatment you are receiving will make you get through this Long Step Process and to deal with Legal Issues for example that of Probabtion Officers who can really make someone wanna change there mind by trying to make you feel different about the person you are with. The constant searches of there house and personal belongings, and making your significant other feel like they are also on there very Probabtion and Terms that the Offender has to live by.

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Posted by dp1 on May 19, 2005 02:07 PM | Also by dp1
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The process that the Sex Offenders go thru is enough to make anyone stop and think about how they possible can live there life and those that stand beside them because it doesnt only affect the Offender it also affects there loved ones and friends around them.


Can you tell us your experiences? Are you married to a registered sex offender?

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Posted by meister82 on Jun 08, 2005 04:16 PM | Also by meister82
Gender: Male, Age Bracket: N/A, State: Virginia, Country: United States
I agree. How are they/them (The General Public) Really to say that treatment cannot prevent "Relapse" as if it's exclusively the only thing that can't be treated to preventing relapse. Alcoholism? Habitual Drug Users? Relapse is a real risk amongst every bad habit or addiction. The fact is, as long as there are people out there living the life of a perfectly normal citizen, you cannot simply assume that it is not treatable. Everyone including smokers and other habits have a higher relapse, that stands to reason. But assuming "No" Sexual Offenses cannot be prevented is a little extreme. I guess the actual poll is at fault here.

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Posted by Teft on Jul 13, 2005 02:09 AM | Also by Teft
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Relapse is a real risk amongst every bad habit or addiction.


When a smoker relapses they might blow smoke in someones face by mistake. When a Sex Offender "relapses", they rape a small child or take some innocence by molesting a child. Relapse is word I find totally lacking in responsibility.

I don't beleive treatment works. I beleive the death penalty ensures complete success in sex offenders not reoffending.

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Posted by Scaye on Jul 14, 2005 03:02 AM | Also by Scaye
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Of course, but you have to want to change.

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Posted by brennus on Jul 14, 2005 04:12 AM | Also by brennus
Gender: Male, Age Bracket: N/A, State: Wisconsin, Country: United States
I'm NOT a SO, but I've been interested in SO treatment concepts before I stumbled on this site. When you REALLY look at it, it's a specific version of the 12 steps. I have a therapist who also works with SO's, and some of the SO treatment concepts can be applied to anyone. Thinking errors, relapse prevention, and safety plans can be modified to fit MOST harmful situations.

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Posted by 1dadof5 on Jul 15, 2005 06:43 AM | Also by 1dadof5
Gender: Male, Age Bracket: N/A, State: Indiana, Country: United States
I don't beleive treatment works. I beleive the death penalty ensures complete success in sex offenders not reoffending.


neither does the educational system as its apparent some people
have failed miserably and never learned a thing

When a Sex Offender "relapses", they rape a small child or take some innocence by molesting a child.


have you even bothered to look at a sex offender registry?

i didnt think so. because if you had, you would have seen that sex offenses against a child make up less than half of all offenders currently on the list. only about 33% of those listed in Indiana's registry have been convicted of a sex offense against a child

given that there are 96,000 sex offenders created every year you are talking about murdering a bunch of people. 66,000 of them will never have committed an offense against a child. That would make you nearly as bad as Hitler or Hussein.
I guess you would also condone vigilante terrorism as well.
You make Bin Laden sound like a boy scout. He would be so envious of you as you could probably teach him a thing or to about killing "infadels"

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Posted by Teft on Jul 15, 2005 07:18 AM | Also by Teft
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because if you had, you would have seen that sex offenses against a child make up less than half of all offenders currently on the list. only about 33% of those listed in Indiana's registry have been convicted of a sex offense against a child


Oh good, that means that only about a quarter of a million sex offenses against children. Wow, I thought we had a real problem out there but I gues its not that bad.

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Posted by mawmaw on Jul 17, 2005 07:30 AM | Also by mawmaw
Gender: Female, Age Bracket: N/A, State: Pennsylvania, Country: United States
quote { it doesnt only affect the Offender it also affects there loved ones and friends around them.}

Thats right !! everything would be over for me, I could never trust him again, he would repulse me for him to touch me , he would be G-O-N-E !!!!

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Posted by Scaye on Sep 27, 2005 04:52 PM | Also by Scaye
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Well, the group I'm currently in and completing in one more class, has never had anyone reoffend.

If you believe in therapy then you believe it can work, if you have never believed in therapy then of course you won't think it works.

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Posted by orolan on Sep 27, 2005 05:15 PM | Also by orolan
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Of course you noticed that the overwhelming response was that it doesn't work?
Show how many stupid people there are in this world. They'll believe anything Fox News tells them.

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Posted by Scaye on Sep 27, 2005 07:16 PM | Also by Scaye
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He was trying to make a point of killing everyone when everyone didnt do things to children, since that seems to be the concern of the poster he was replying to. It would be nice if you would think before you type.

Just my 2 cents.

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scaye


Posted by dp1 on Sep 28, 2005 12:22 AM | Also by dp1
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Well, the group I'm currently in and completing in one more class,


Congratulations.

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Posted by Scaye on Sep 28, 2005 05:44 AM | Also by Scaye
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Many thanks. =)

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Posted by june5 on Oct 17, 2005 05:24 AM | Also by june5
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Thats right !! everything would be over for me, I could never trust him again, he would repulse me for him to touch me , he would be G-O-N-E !!!!


That is an easy answer if the SO were your husband or boyfriend, you could easily break up with him. What if the SO were someone like your son or other relative? Would your answer be the same?

My husband is coming home from the county jail next week (contact offense against adult). I am feeling physically ill just thinking about it. I don't know what, if any, reaction we will get from neighbors if they should find out. The only thing that I do know for sure is that if anybody comes to my door to spew their hatred or demand that I move--I will be proudly paying $10 to run a criminal check with my state police department. It shows any and all convictions, including misdemeanors. I think that those who want to make convictions public shouldn't have any problem with their own convictions being made public, right?

As an aside, about one year ago a crack dealer moved into my apartment building. He was evicted after a short time, but during that time there were people smoking crack in the hallway and all manner of dangerous looking armed folks about. Now, if you want to believe that my husband is a danger to every woman in the neighborhood, fine. But drug dealers are dangerous to every single person and child in the neighborhood. Anyone that ever visited me could have been shot and killed. Luckily we don't have a drug dealer registry. God knows we only have to worry about sex offenders.

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Message 165811 (In Reply to Message 121926)
no


Posted by anti on Oct 30, 2005 03:08 AM | Also by anti
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I do not feel so.

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121926, admin, Nov 19, 2003 04:30 PM [Introduction]
      151938, mysticfyre, May 18, 2005 06:02 PM [Absolutely]
            151981, dp1, May 19, 2005 02:07 PM
                  156446, mawmaw, Jul 17, 2005 07:30 AM
                        164796, june5, Oct 17, 2005 05:24 AM
            153234, meister82, Jun 08, 2005 04:16 PM
            156113, brennus, Jul 14, 2005 04:12 AM
      155960, Teft, Jul 13, 2005 02:09 AM
            156249, 1dadof5, Jul 15, 2005 06:43 AM
                  156254, Teft, Jul 15, 2005 07:18 AM
                        162846, Scaye, Sep 27, 2005 07:16 PM
      156099, Scaye, Jul 14, 2005 03:02 AM
      162832, Scaye, Sep 27, 2005 04:52 PM
            162834, orolan, Sep 27, 2005 05:15 PM
            162869, dp1, Sep 28, 2005 12:22 AM [scaye]
                  162901, Scaye, Sep 28, 2005 05:44 AM
      165811, anti, Oct 30, 2005 03:08 AM [no]
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