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Thread (Discussion): Poll 1003 - Should convicted rapists be castrated using chemical castration? - Go Navigatr1
Message 121924
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on Nov 19, 2003 04:30 PM | Also by admin
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Discuss Poll 1003 - Should convicted rapists be castrated using chemical castration?
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Message 130109 (In Reply to Message 121924)
no
Posted by gothichick616
on Apr 10, 2004 01:47 AM | Also by gothichick616
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No, I dont believe that convicted rapists should be chemical castrated because there is always a chance of rehabilitation. Of course, there are exceptions, like if the offender CONTINUED to rape people, then thats quite reasonable, but if its thier first offense, I believe they shoudl be given a second chance at living a normal life.
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Message 130286 (In Reply to Message 130109)
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Good response.
The other problem of course is the possibility of the rapist actually being innocent. Can chemical castration be "undone"?
Rapists with ironclad DNA evidence against them ,maybe.
Repeat offenders, forget it. They need to be doing life, so it doesn't matter.
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Message 130371 (In Reply to Message 121924)
Posted by dp1
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I don't see any problems with chemical castrations. Has asnyone ever tried Depo? It's effective with cutting back the sex drive. If a compulsive offender needs chemicals to control himself then so be it. I don't see the problem with offering that type of therapy in lieu of 1,000 years in prison for first time offenders. There are responsible people out there that have chemical imbalances IMO. Men are in denial when it comes to hormone therapy. Women have been taking hormone replacements for years. They need to get over it.
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Message 130392 (In Reply to Message 130371)
Posted by orolan
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Has anyone ever tried Depo?
Depo is a birth control medication that causes severe anxiety and depression when given to men. You won't catch me trying it.
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I'm in favor of depo-provera for rapists. But for FORCE RAPISTS only not somebody who downloads child porn or fondled a kid. There are real side effects to the drug but for a force rapist I think its an option worth looking into.
Silverthorne
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Message 130428 (In Reply to Message 130392)
Depo
Posted by dp1
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I took Depo for less than a year. I now know why it's an effective means for birth control. If there's no sex drive your chances of getting pregnant are slim to none. Personally, I didn't care to walk around without libido, so I quit taking depo.
If it has similar effects on men then it's a "must have" for SO's who fixate and act out repeadedly on impulse. It's certainly a better alternative to prison if the SO was willing to accept the treatment and really wanted to make changes in his life. If they would just change the name of the treatment from "chemical castration" to "hormonal therapy" it wouldn't have such a negative connotation and could be more palatable.
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Message 139296 (In Reply to Message 130407)
oncescorned
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on Aug 31, 2004 01:21 AM | Also by oncescorned
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I agree that chemical castration should be used on first time offenders but only those that actually assaulted someone. It is reversable if the courts find they have made a mistake. In the case of repeat offenders, I believe their ability to attack a victim a third time should be removed surgically.
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Message 144034 (In Reply to Message 121924)
Posted by taytay22
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Im on depo, ive been on depo for over a year, and my sex drive is fine, but im a female! Depo effects everyone differently....
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Message 144147 (In Reply to Message 121924)
Yes
Posted by oioi
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I, too, was on Depo for about a year. It did reduce my sex drive alot, which in my situation was a good thing, even though I was using it for birth control. Sometimes I think about going back on it, actually, even though I don't need birth control.
I definitely think that it is prudent to put rapists on the drug. Of course, as with any drug therapy, the patient should be monitered for dangerous side effects. I would definitely recommend Depo to anyone who has any reason to reduce sex drive.
Having a sex life should be like driving a car - a priviledge and a responsibility, not a right. A person who uses a car to assault someone should have their license revoked. Chemical "therapy" for sex offenders is the closest thing we have to revoking their license to sex. Even in prison. If I was in a cell with a rapist, I sure would feel a heck of alot more comfortable if s/he was on Depo.
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Message 147927 (In Reply to Message 121924)
Posted by monkey4u
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yes
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Message 148001 (In Reply to Message 147927)
Rapist 101 people
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I am floored by the response. You wite (plural) as though sex offenders commit their crimes for sex. Come on people this is basic criminal thinking 101. Sex crimes (as all acts where one person exerts their will over that of another) are crimes of control that manifest themselves as overt acts of a sexual nature. The rapist is using sex only as the vehicle through which he is attempting to return himself to a perception of control. You can cut a rapist's dick off and remove his balls, he can still rape!! Sure, this makes us all pat ourselves on the back and think we have brought godly vengeance on the monster. You have done little but increase the need for control.
If an offender is to a point where chemicals (a temporary measure at best) are used then I would think he may not be a good candidate to be loose to begin with. Think, think, think, sex offenses are primarily about control.
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Message 148011 (In Reply to Message 147927)
Oops Cases
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What about those people who were found 10, 20, or 30 years later to be innocent of the sex crime? Oops, we are sorry that we castrated you. Hope that will teach you not to commit a sex crime. Oh by the way, here is your $40 or $50 gate money, don't come back ya hear?
I would hate to be one of those people who were later determined to not be guilty of a sex crime, and been castrated because some people felt it was just to castrate all sex offenders.
How do you propose that we castrate women sex offenders? Do we cut off thier clitoris? Do we remove the womb and surgically close the vaginal opening so that they can no longer have sex? Do we remove the ovaries?
--Navigatr1
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Message 148030 (In Reply to Message 148011)
Go Navigatr1
Posted by newmind6
on Mar 25, 2005 04:12 PM | Also by newmind6
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Oh Navigatr1; you really hit the nail on the head. Once again emotions are pricked because of headlines designed to cause reaction. Of course we don't want the crimes to occur, and we feel frustrated because they do occur. The vast majority of sex offenses are not committed by repeat offenders, no, they are the first time offender. But they don't make for good headlines "FAMILY IS DANGEROUS TO CHILDREN'S HEALTH" would have to be the headlines. Thank you for a pointed reply.
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121924, admin, Nov 19, 2003 04:30 PM [Introduction]
130109, gothichick616, Apr 10, 2004 01:47 AM [no]
130286, orolan, Apr 12, 2004 10:42 PM
130371, dp1, Apr 14, 2004 01:30 PM
130392, orolan, Apr 14, 2004 04:12 PM
130428, dp1, Apr 15, 2004 12:09 AM [Depo]
130407, Silverthorne, Apr 14, 2004 06:29 PM
139296, oncescorned, Aug 31, 2004 01:21 AM [oncescorned]
144034, taytay22, Jan 17, 2005 02:40 PM
144147, oioi, Jan 19, 2005 10:57 AM [Yes]
147927, monkey4u, Mar 24, 2005 04:26 AM
148001, newmind6, Mar 25, 2005 07:07 AM [Rapist 101 people]
148011, Navigatr1, Mar 25, 2005 02:14 PM [Oops Cases]
148030, newmind6, Mar 25, 2005 04:12 PM [Go Navigatr1]
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