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Message 168695
This could have major effects


Posted by
Renunciation on Dec 06, 2005 06:15 PM | Also by Renunciation
Gender: N/A, Age Bracket: 30 - 39, State: N/A, Country: Bahrain

http://www.christiansciencemonitor.com/2005/1206/p03s01-usju.html

How many states are being coerced into behaviors against the wishes of its residents by Federal Government funding rules?

50

Not so much effect on RSO laws, but other laws will be affected.

I am going to watch this one closely.

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Message 168705 (In Reply to Message 168695)


Posted by
orolan on Dec 07, 2005 03:19 AM | Also by orolan
Gender: Male, Age Bracket: 30 - 39, State: N/A, Country: United States

You should keep an eye on this one as well. Already argued, on November 1st, but the transcripts aren't available yet online.
GONZALES V. O CENTRO ESPIRITA BENEFICIENTE UNIAO DO VEGETAL

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Posted by
rabbitreborn on Dec 07, 2005 11:20 PM | Also by rabbitreborn
Gender: Male, Age Bracket: 30 - 39, State: Florida, Country: United States

Actually it does effect RSO laws as well. We are all aware that the government has given funding to states based on their RSO numbers. The government even threatened to withhold funding to any state that did not for a SO registry. Same principle, if the government holds a financial bludgeon over a states head that state is of course going to cave so as to receive the funds.

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Posted by
1dadof5 on Dec 08, 2005 03:09 PM | Also by 1dadof5
Gender: Male, Age Bracket: 30 - 39, State: Indiana, Country: United States

with the exception of how it may affect state's rights, It gets me so pissed off at how the Gay Mafia and other groups try so hard to undermine our military at every turn. We see these radical groups attempting to keep recruiters out of our High Schools and now they want to keep them out of our colleges as well. It doesnt make any sense at all. We have a volunteer-type system that requires recruitment of intellegent, and aspiring people to serve.
They want to take away the military's right to free speech so that they can protect the rights of gay free speech which isnt even threatened.
We have a dean of a prestigious school whining about how thier PRIVATE school may not get 50 mllion+ /per year of PUBLIC funds all the while this very same school discriminates against the poorer students by denying them admission because they dont meet thier standards. We are talking about a school that costs $40,000+ per year to attend. Heck, I dont even see why they would even need public money with that kind of tuition rate!

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Message 168989 (In Reply to Message 168910)


Posted by
rabbitreborn on Dec 08, 2005 10:16 PM | Also by rabbitreborn
Gender: Male, Age Bracket: 30 - 39, State: Florida, Country: United States

We have a dean of a prestigious school whining about how thier PRIVATE school may not get 50 mllion+ /per year of PUBLIC funds

Of course he's whining..... If they don't get those funds he may have to take a pay cut next term.

Heck, I dont even see why they would even need public money with that kind of tuition rate!


Because believe it or not, not everyone is required to pay those rates. Children of former alumni are granted a discount as well as a few well deserving students (read that as a VERY few) that are granted an education at no cost to them at all.

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Posted by
orolan on Dec 09, 2005 06:53 PM | Also by orolan
Gender: Male, Age Bracket: 30 - 39, State: N/A, Country: United States

I have no problem with military recruiters having access to college campuses as long as that access is EQUAL to the private sector. From what I understand though the military wants MORE than what the private sector is given. Recruiters want basically unlimited access to students, and they want universities to provide them with rooms and auditoriums to pitch their service. The private sector is limited to a table at a job fair each semester and a space on the bulletin board.
In those circumstances it would be easy to see why a student would feel the administration "favored" the military over the private sector.

Funniest thing is that these are law schools. I thought the military fought wars with bullets, not legal briefs. What's the military doing recruiting on law school campuses? They're better off at Texas A&M than Harvard.

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Posted by
Renunciation on Dec 09, 2005 08:18 PM | Also by Renunciation
Gender: N/A, Age Bracket: 30 - 39, State: N/A, Country: Bahrain

An extreme shortage of military lawyers.............

The feds subsidized the shows NCIS/JAG to glorify the very boring job of military lawyer, but people still know that the best pay for an officer/lawyer in the Navy is less than a well-paid paralegal and no requirement to serve on an aircraft carrier or Norfolk, VA.

Ok I made up the subsidize part, but I would not be suprised! LOL

Compare defending some guy who is being court martialed for fighting with someone to defending a high profile case like homicide during an assault on a motor vehicle with a basketball in Florida?

I sat a few Court Martials while on temp duty before discharging....... the sex in the dive shack case was good, but the rest were BORING.

The best places to recruit are unemployment offices, bankruptcy courts, divorce courts, orphanages and depressed farming communities.

I wrote a letter to Sen Graham and offered my services for ten years in ANY capacity as long as it was active duty and I kept my old rank, in exchange for a clean record. I called it the A4A, Amnesty for Army program, and if you served 10 years with honorable service your criminal record was wiped clean and you could begin life anew. He did not respond, lol.

Who would the mothers of America prefer to have their testicles blown off in a roadside bombing? Their son or the sex offender down the street? From the lack of response from Sen Graham, it would seem that America is perfectly happy having the "good people" killed in Iraq and the "bad people" living long productive lives next door.

Whattya do?

R

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Message 169137 (In Reply to Message 169072)


Posted by
orolan on Dec 10, 2005 06:26 PM | Also by orolan
Gender: Male, Age Bracket: 30 - 39, State: N/A, Country: United States

From the lack of response from Sen Graham, it would seem that America is perfectly happy having the "good people" killed in Iraq and the "bad people" living long productive lives next door.

Not really. It just means that none of Sen. Graham's offspring are in Iraq so he really doesn't care who gets their testicles blown off over there.

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168695, Renunciation, Dec 06, 2005 06:15 PM [This could have major effects]
      168705, orolan, Dec 07, 2005 03:19 AM
      168825, rabbitreborn, Dec 07, 2005 11:20 PM
            168910, 1dadof5, Dec 08, 2005 03:09 PM
                  168989, rabbitreborn, Dec 08, 2005 10:16 PM
                  169063, orolan, Dec 09, 2005 06:53 PM
                        169072, Renunciation, Dec 09, 2005 08:18 PM
                              169137, orolan, Dec 10, 2005 06:26 PM

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