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Thread (Discussion): Katrina disaster releif.
Message 161425
Posted by rabbitreborn
on Sep 13, 2005 07:36 PM | Also by rabbitreborn
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Has anyone heard a number given out yet as to the number of people that have been directly impacted (typically through loss of residence) from Katrina?
I have heard the number is somewhere in the 300,000 range of those that have lost their homes or had signifigant damage done to their homes. Can anyone confirm or debunk this number?
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Message 166350 (In Reply to Message 161425)
wow that many?? omg.........
Posted by anti
on Nov 03, 2005 08:18 PM | Also by anti
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I heard alot less then that, but can be due to fact as I have not had tv, radio on for days, as I am working on something.
wow very sad.
anti
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Message 166384 (In Reply to Message 161425)
Posted by Renunciation
on Nov 03, 2005 11:34 PM | Also by Renunciation
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I have not heard of a direct-impact statistic.
I have heard a lot of grumbling about the evacuees deciding to stay in their host cities. Many of the loving and givig people are reconsidering their generosity now that a large number of people decided to stay in places like Fresno, Denver, and Twin Cities.
Though I am not too sure former New Orleans residents will be so eager to stay in MN or WI about the third week of January, hehe.
I also saw a brief report about the flow of Hispanics into New Orleans to be employed in the rebuilding and deciding to stay. They interviewed several Black business owners and contractors who said they will hire only blacks to do the work and want the Hispanics(almost all Mexicans) to leave.
Our Southern flank has been breached. LOL.
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Message 166455 (In Reply to Message 166384)
Posted by rabbitreborn
on Nov 04, 2005 03:52 PM | Also by rabbitreborn
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It's been breached for years, just ask Valerie about it, I think she tracks it better than anyone else on this site.
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Message 166504 (In Reply to Message 161425)
Posted by orolan
on Nov 05, 2005 02:04 AM | Also by orolan
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Nope but I did see where FEMA says the bill for their shoddy relief effort is above $40 billion and they sent Louisiana a bill for over $8 billion, or half the State's annual revenue.
I think the Governor had several choice words forum guidelines prohibit the use of regarding what FEMA could do with their bill:-))
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Message 166524 (In Reply to Message 166384)
Posted by sboyles
on Nov 05, 2005 06:42 AM | Also by sboyles
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If you are a RSO, don't stay in Houston... coming up on KPRC Houston'sNBC affiliate:
Monday at 10: Did YOUR kindness after Katrina help predators make new homes in Houston? How hundreds of registered New Orleans sex offenders evacuated, unchecked, into Houston. It's the side of the storm nobody wanted to talk about, until now.
I like the way they emphasize "YOUR"
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Message 166637 (In Reply to Message 166524)
Posted by brennus
on Nov 06, 2005 01:08 AM | Also by brennus
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It's also disturbing because it stereotypes Katrina victims as potential SO's. I see a backlash against Katrina evacuees coming, with most of them being seen as potential predators.Anyone can be a potential SO, and I'm wondering since the majority of Katrina victims are black, and there has always been the stereotype of black men as rapists, if the two are not linked?
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Message 166836 (In Reply to Message 161425)
Posted by rabbitreborn
on Nov 07, 2005 11:01 PM | Also by rabbitreborn
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The reason for my question was a simple math calculation. The last number I heard was that there were 300,000 effected by the storm. The U.S. government has earmarked (according to latest numbers I have heard) approximately 112 BILLION dollars to aid in the recovery efforts. If I do a simple calculation of 300,000 homes multiplied by an average cost of $125,000 per home (and believe me I could build 1 heck of a home for that amount) I arrive at a sum of 37.5 BILLION dollars. Not only that , but it would also put many of those effected into jobs building their OWN homes and getting paid to do so. This would leave over 60 BILLION dollars to further improve the infrastructure of the area. Now I'm not the best at figuring things out, but doesn't that sound like a better plan than just throwing money to the wind and HOPEING it gets to the right place?
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Message 166860 (In Reply to Message 166836)
Posted by Valerie
on Nov 08, 2005 02:04 AM | Also by Valerie
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Rabbit I dont know if you are anyone here saw the show maybe "the factor" or some such show...but they had this financial analyst on after Katrina...and his words were and I quote "the loss from Katrina and the war in Iraq, is only a bump in the road for our government" and dont let anyone tell you otherwise" there is plenty of money to recoup from both of these efforts.....
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Message 166967 (In Reply to Message 166860)
Posted by orolan
on Nov 09, 2005 01:41 AM | Also by orolan
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Oh yeah. There's plenty of money. Just print some more. When you print the money and need some, you just buy some more paper and ink. No big deal.
The defiicit this year is going to be $300 billion. Looks like if the Katrina subsidy and the Iraq war were taken out the country might actually break even.
But hey, the folks in Congress are on the job. In order to keep things somewhat managable they're cutting out Food Stamps for 225,000 households, cutting $10 billion from Medicaid this year alone, eliminating child care assistance for 330,000 kids and cutting out $400 million in foster-care payments.
So we have kids who will go hungry because there's no food, get sick because they're malnourished and can't get any medical care AND they'll have to stay home by themselves at 5 years old because Mom and Dad both have to work and they can't afford the $200 a week the daycare wants. All of this will result in CPS taking the kid away because of neglect and endangerment. But where will they put the kid? No money to pay for the foster care.
Aren't you SOOOOO glad Congress has the lives of the children at the forefront of their legislation?
But that's this week. Next week they cut the taxes paid by people like Oprah and Bill Gates by $70 billion. Since the Fed cut out all that spending to help the kids, no need to take as much of the money these people have, you know.
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161425, rabbitreborn, Sep 13, 2005 07:36 PM
166350, anti, Nov 03, 2005 08:18 PM [wow that many?? omg.........]
166384, Renunciation, Nov 03, 2005 11:34 PM
166455, rabbitreborn, Nov 04, 2005 03:52 PM
166524, sboyles, Nov 05, 2005 06:42 AM
166637, brennus, Nov 06, 2005 01:08 AM
166504, orolan, Nov 05, 2005 02:04 AM
166836, rabbitreborn, Nov 07, 2005 11:01 PM
166860, Valerie, Nov 08, 2005 02:04 AM
166967, orolan, Nov 09, 2005 01:41 AM
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