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Thread (Discussion): [Hürriyet] Fantasy trap for rapist
Message 171366
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Posted by admin
on Jan 16, 2006 12:33 AM | Also by admin
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Discuss the article Fantasy trap for rapist, which appeared on Hürriyet on January 15, 2006.
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Message 172243 (In Reply to Message 171366)
Posted by artie
on Jan 27, 2006 02:50 PM | Also by artie
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Why do I tend to believe that she was justified and should be released if her story pans out?
Does that make me a bad guy?
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Message 172278 (In Reply to Message 172243)
Posted by orolan
on Jan 27, 2006 09:34 PM | Also by orolan
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Well, if the recording exists, she's justified. Without it we have no idea if she's telling the truth or not. What if she's a prostitute who found out he had no money to pay her?
Here in the USA it would be a no-brainer. Her word is good enough. Hopefully the Turkish police will require some actual evidence that she was raped before deciding she is telling the truth.
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Message 172285 (In Reply to Message 172243)
Posted by june5
on Jan 27, 2006 11:17 PM | Also by june5
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Artie, that doesn't make you a bad guy. We can't really say that people should be allowed to "have revenge", but assuming her story is true (big assumption), her actions are certainly understandable.
It is when people want to or do actually perpetrate this kind of violence when they or their loved ones were not a victim of this person that I think something is seriously wrong with the vigilante himself.
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Message 172309 (In Reply to Message 171366)
Posted by Navigatr1
on Jan 28, 2006 04:23 AM | Also by Navigatr1
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While I can understand her anger, I don't feel Ms. Ceylan was justified in murdering Mr. Gavaz as it wasn't a case of self defense. She should have went to the police rather than taking the law into her own hands, and acting like a vigilante. According to the article, she doesn't have the images on this alledged cell phone that she strangled him in an attempt to obtain.
Gavaz was laying face-down and I sat on his back. I took the shoulder-strap off my bag and wrapped it around his neck, and asked for the images on the mobile phone. When he said he did not have them, I tied two knots in the strap and strangled him by tightening it. Following this, I returned to Keshan and turned myself in
We don't know if he actually took the pictures or not, or if he was only saying he did in order to extort more sex out of her. It was still no excuse for murdering him. Unless the police find this cell phone or the alledged images, then she doesn't have a leg to stand on.
--Navigatr1
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Message 172369 (In Reply to Message 172285)
Posted by 1dadof5
on Jan 29, 2006 09:14 AM | Also by 1dadof5
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wow, what a story. while i cant legally justify her actions, i sure cant blame her for it if thats what happened
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Message 172393 (In Reply to Message 172278)
Posted by Ruined
on Jan 29, 2006 08:39 PM | Also by Ruined
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More power to her.
I think all rape victims should get 15 unsupervised minutes with their attacker. By law.
With a hammer, a surgical kit and a barrel full of electric eels..
Just my opinion.
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171366, admin, Jan 16, 2006 12:33 AM [Introduction]
172243, artie, Jan 27, 2006 02:50 PM
172278, orolan, Jan 27, 2006 09:34 PM
172393, Ruined, Jan 29, 2006 08:39 PM
174414, Pending Further Review
172285, june5, Jan 27, 2006 11:17 PM
172369, 1dadof5, Jan 29, 2006 09:14 AM
172309, Navigatr1, Jan 28, 2006 04:23 AM
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