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Thread (Discussion): [Calcutta Telegraph] Dalit ‘pays’ hand price
Message 169336
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Posted by admin
on Dec 12, 2005 08:29 PM | Also by admin
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Discuss the article Dalit ‘pays’ hand price, by Rasheed Kidwai, which appeared on Calcutta Telegraph on December 10, 2005.
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Message 169342 (In Reply to Message 169336)
Posted by Valerie
on Dec 13, 2005 02:46 AM | Also by Valerie
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Thats what gets me quite peeved as a United States Citizen..now to put it as simply as it presently is coming to mind...the U.S. is relatively at the top of the food chain when it comes to cultures...then we have those who come in underground who have no concept of our laws, our progress in thought (in some cases) etc...you got some guy who knows nothing but a primitive unjust, unfair corrupt system that has required him to literally beg, borrow or steal to survive. You drop this guy on Main Street USA and expect him to adapt to our laws and our ethics..just isnt happening. The Haitans are a real peace of work here. Most know nothing but basic survival skills, a class system of either Haves or havenots and we expect them to play nice..aint happening..
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Message 169375 (In Reply to Message 169342)
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on Dec 13, 2005 03:40 PM | Also by 1dadof5
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you are correct, val. What does that have to do with this autrocity in India? Its sad that women are still being vioently abused in many parts of India and it seems no one is trying to stop this rampant abuse or make changes. As a reward, companies like Sprint, Microsoft and others have taken jobs that americans deserve and give them to countries like India which have no regard for the rights of its women. There are more than 25,000 employees working for these companies there when they should be bringing these jobs back home and employ americans. they claim to be american companies but have no allegance to it. Besides, when I want to call customer service I would appreciate being able to talk to someone who actually understands the language and not just recognise the words used in a sentance. You cant seem to get these foriegners 6000 mile away to understand anything you are trying to say.
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Message 169380 (In Reply to Message 169342)
Posted by Renunciation
on Dec 13, 2005 05:30 PM | Also by Renunciation
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the U.S. is relatively at the top of the food chain when it comes to cultures
Words spoken by a citizen of the United States.
There is no food chain when it comes to culture. Culture is just that, culture. No one culture is better than any other. There may be culture clashes, and the United States is better prepared financially to kill, torture and starve those who do not adapt or agree with our culture, but that doesn't make our culture better.
I think what offends you the most, and I too have had some issues with this, is not the culture of people, say Haitians, but culture clashes. When people migrate, they normally would be expected to adapt and learn the cultures of their new land.
I travelled all over the world, and stayed for extended periods of time in many places. Few nations were as tolerant as the United States when it came to adapting to ME, instead of me adapting to my new home.
Who is to blame? The people of the United States are to blame. Voters. The same people who allow sex offender registries, banishment, exile are the same people who allow their government to spend tax dollars catering to immigrants who resist adapting. When you elect leaders who are willing to banish their own people from communities for a crime, you elect leaders who will spend your tax dollars however you want, and you can either deal with it, or vote differently.
However....... when it gets close to election time, those same politicians who demand DMV forms be made available in 345 different languages play you, they feel the trend of the moment and get "tough" on crime, like sex offender laws. Voters jump on the bandwagon and decide banishing a sex offender is more important than compelling immigrants to adapt quicker and they reelect the same people. The same people who spend your tax dollars however they darn well please and you feel good about it, because that same "leader" helped pass a law that banished someone your community helped create. See Quest's new thread.
We cannot blame the immigrant for his lack of motivation to adapt. We have to blame ourselves. We make it easy and it is human nature to take the easy road.
I had to learn the language of my host nations because they would not adapt to me, I had to adapt to them, and I did not mind, in fact I welcomed it.
Do not vote for anyone who supports any rules that make it easier for immigrants to resist adaptation, no matter how far they tell you they want to banish sex offenders.
Monitor your elected officials, as election time nears, watch how they get tough on crime and avoid hot topic issues like immigration reform. See, it is really cool to slam sex offenders now, and politicians, good ones, know how to play your fears and anger. By the time the dust settles, some people have been banished and that politician was relected.
I mean, lets face it, we actually have a degree program in the United States called Political Science! What should that tell you?
Renster
If the culture in India says a woman's hands need to be removed if she does something against her culture, who are we to say its wrong? How do we know that in 200 years, it will turn out the United States was wrong on all counts? Indians are bredding faster than Americans, so if they outnumber and out power us, and they will, then their culture becomes "right" and our hamburgers will be illegal. LOL.
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Message 169391 (In Reply to Message 169342)
Posted by rabbitreborn
on Dec 13, 2005 07:11 PM | Also by rabbitreborn
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no offense, but Hatian are ONLY that way because our government MADE them that way. When they arrive off their rafts and "boats" they are met on our soil by government officials who are more than happy to provide them with financial funding to export goods back to their homeland. These people then use YOUR tax dollars to make themselves far more wealthy than you can imagine. I personally have been in business dealings with them and I despise every moment that I have had to associate with them. Not because they are better business professionals than I am (because I do NOT feel that they are), but rather because while you and I are scraping by trying to etch out a living, they are ACTING as though the US government OWES them the living that they could NEVER have in their own country (and for some strange reason our government GIVES IT TO THEM!!!)
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Message 169401 (In Reply to Message 169342)
val
Posted by rodsmith
on Dec 13, 2005 09:08 PM | Also by rodsmith
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i have to agree...the old melding pot just ain't happening anymore.they come here and keep their language, writing and customs and yell if we say anything.
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Message 169676 (In Reply to Message 169401)
Posted by 1dadof5
on Dec 17, 2005 05:35 PM | Also by 1dadof5
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i say "see a boat, sink a boat". I need to put a .50 caliber gun on my boat and go "hunting" hey, its to protect the children!
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169336, admin, Dec 12, 2005 08:29 PM [Introduction]
169342, Valerie, Dec 13, 2005 02:46 AM
169375, 1dadof5, Dec 13, 2005 03:40 PM
169380, Renunciation, Dec 13, 2005 05:30 PM
169391, rabbitreborn, Dec 13, 2005 07:11 PM
169401, rodsmith, Dec 13, 2005 09:08 PM [val]
169676, 1dadof5, Dec 17, 2005 05:35 PM
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