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Thread (Discussion): [cantonrep.com] Lawmakers propose license plates for sex offenders

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Posted by admin on Dec 12, 2005 08:14 PM | Also by admin
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Discuss the article Lawmakers propose license plates for sex offenders, which appeared on cantonrep.com on December 12, 2005.

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Posted by 1dadof5 on Dec 14, 2005 07:24 PM | Also by 1dadof5
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I just cant get over the crumbling of civil and human rights in this country. Its amazing that Americans can idly sit back and not understand how these new laws have the vey real possibility to eventually being applied to them. These things set precident if they are upheld by the courts. People think that these things are good because they only apply to sex offenders. what they dont realize is tht from a legal standpoint, once they are upheld for sex offenders then they can be leglly used against ANYONE the government wants to control. Doctors, Lawyers, Computer and IT people, mechanics are all "groups" of people in which these very same laws could eventually be applied to. Doesnt anyone get it?

Examine the mentality of this statement;

But Sen. Kevin Coughlin, a Cuyahoga Falls Republican, said the license plate legislation is not intended to ostracize them in scarlet-letter fashion. It’s simply a way to make Ohioans more cautious by letting them know when some sex offenders are near, he said.


its not intended to ostracize them? oh please, it does just that by its mere application. people will see the plate and immediately become so paranoid and call the police at will. pull into a business for a job, they lock the door before the RSO even gets out of the car.
get real senator. you need to engage the brain there fella

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Posted by Renunciation on Dec 15, 2005 03:14 AM | Also by Renunciation
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license plate legislation is not intended to ostracize them in scarlet-letter fashion


Good. To prove that point, he should have such a plate on his car for a year, to prove that there are no actions taken against those who have them.

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huh?


Posted by june5 on Dec 15, 2005 03:46 AM | Also by june5
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Well, the most erudite comment I can come up with is: this is retarded. I don't argee with the "drunk driver specialty plates" either, but at least there is a logical connection between the two. Are most SO's "offending" in their cars, or what? I really hate to say this, but I am glad that they are making drunk drivers have the specialty plates, and I hope they will add drunk drivers to a registry as well. The only reason I say this is that there are going to have to be a lot more people affected by these types of laws before anything is done about the SO laws. How many politicians are going to end up with specialty plates for drunk driving? Just like everything else, the general public is going to start getting real interested in the constitutionality of the SO registry once they find themselves on a similar registry. This law seems pretty impractical as well. Any SO with half a brain just won't have a car in their own name. I heard about this a while ago, and I can tell you that my husband doesn't own a car and he won't in the future.

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Posted by orolan on Dec 15, 2005 04:35 AM | Also by orolan
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I am glad that they are making drunk drivers have the specialty plates

Ohio has had this DUI plate since 1969 and supposedly in that 36 year timeframe less than 1,000 people have had it on their car. Of course the stupidity of allowing a DUI offender to continue driving escaped the Legislature entirely;-))

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Posted by Navigatr1 on Dec 15, 2005 01:40 PM | Also by Navigatr1
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1dadof5 wrote:

People think that these things are good because they only apply to sex offenders. what they dont realize is tht from a legal standpoint, once they are upheld for sex offenders then they can be leglly used against ANYONE the government wants to control. Doctors, Lawyers, Computer and IT people, mechanics are all "groups" of people in which these very same laws could eventually be applied to. Doesnt anyone get it?

I whole heartedly agree. People don't realize that these draconian laws can be appied to them as well. They figure that they are safe because they are narrowly tailored to sex offenders. However, they don't realize that they have set precedent, which I don't think the courts fully realize either. They go through semantic gymnastics in order to justify these laws. Don't believe me about semantic gymnastics? Just read some of the archane language they use in drafting some of the bills. It takes an expert to understand what they just said. Even then, I don't think two experts would agree.

--Navigatr1

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Posted by Valerie on Dec 16, 2005 01:41 PM | Also by Valerie
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I actually thought this was a joke of some kind...then I recieved an e-mail on it this am...someone should throw this guy out of any decision processes...for simply not being able to complete a thought...

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169330, admin, Dec 12, 2005 08:14 PM [Introduction]
      169493, 1dadof5, Dec 14, 2005 07:24 PM
            169537, Navigatr1, Dec 15, 2005 01:40 PM
                  169624, Valerie, Dec 16, 2005 01:41 PM
      169512, Renunciation, Dec 15, 2005 03:14 AM
      169514, june5, Dec 15, 2005 03:46 AM [huh?]
            169524, orolan, Dec 15, 2005 04:35 AM
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