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Forum: In the News
Thread (Discussion): [Tampa Bay's 10 News] Teacher Debra LaFave now a sex offender Switch to Flat View
Message 169503 (In Reply to Message 169444) To dp: note I only am asking questions.
Posted by pop1
on Dec 15, 2005 01:43 AM | Also by pop1
| Gender: Male,
Age Bracket: 70+,
State: Tennessee,
Country: United States |
Dear dp1, I shouldn't have written my last message. The time was after midnight, an hour too late for an 87+ year old man to be involved in any form of communications. dp1, I want you to note I am asking questions. I have no more idea than a crabshell what best fits Debra's crime. May I ask you some questions? In your first kind answer to one of my early messages you tried to inform me of the common symptoms of all sex offenders. I forget your exact wording, but you indicated the problem was 'herself'. You asked how she could be helped against herself or something like that. Are you suggesting the problem is genetic thus suggesting her entire family should be under scrutiny? Or are you suggesting the problem is merely attitudinal? You mentioned she could care less. Certainly I understand the possibility she cares less about what her criminal misconduct did to the boy. And one of my questions about God's intentions is that He wants her to go to prison. That would be equivalent to letting the prodical son stoop so low to eat sty slop. It takes a sinner or criminal to go all the way to the depths of hell before coming to his/her senses. I can understand how it might take Debra to the brinks of death before she sees light. Yet I feel I was born to ask many stupid questions because I was trained back in the days of 'cause and effect' psychology. That's me! That's how I am. I can agree with your sentiments precisely and still ask many, many questions. That's how I am. Now as far as my Christian obligations to pray for Debra I must pray for her with all faith. Faith that God will hear me. Faith that He will save her soul at His own time. I ask you questions about causes of her criminal behavior, but those questions do not appear in my prayers. At one time I followed a Tampa group of prayers who prayed she would not be sentenced to prison. That time was followed by a strong feeling I was wrong and I stopped. My praying is for soul saving, for making the spirit in her stronger than her flesh and for bringing her to her senses. I also pray for God to hear my prayers for her. Yet I know in my heart that God will not hear my prayers until she herself turns to Jesus. He also will not hear my prayers until the boy and she forgive each other and build a whole new Christian friendship free of sin. Unfortunately that also applies to God forgiving the boy. Now, mind you, dp1, I pray for that boy as much as I do for Debra. My prayers for him, however, are private whereas I pray much for Debra publicly in prayer forums on the net. Now about what sex offenders have to do to reach a satisfactory relationship with the world Orolan makes it sound very complicated and difficult. He has been working for nine years and has reached an accomplishment only within the past three years. Recently I was very pleased to hear him describe a right relationship with God. I certainly pray he is correct. dp1, I don't think our hearts are far apart. Only our minds are. Love in Christ to you. pop1.
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Message 169444
Posted by dp1
on Dec 14, 2005 07:54 AM | Also by dp1
| Gender: Female,
Age Bracket: N/A,
State: Florida,
Country: United States |
Thread 167830, admin, Nov 22, 2005 01:58 PM [Introduction] 168421, pop1, Dec 02, 2005 05:26 AM [Does Debra understand the gravity of her situation?] 168424, dp1, Dec 02, 2005 02:48 PM [Hello and Welcome] 168438, rabbitreborn, Dec 02, 2005 05:11 PM 168445, pop1, Dec 02, 2005 07:08 PM [dp1, Could we share our observations?] 168474, orolan, Dec 03, 2005 12:45 AM 168846, pop1, Dec 08, 2005 01:42 AM [Orolan, I like you but ...] 169003, orolan, Dec 09, 2005 12:01 AM 168575, dp1, Dec 04, 2005 07:31 AM [pop] 168681, pop1, Dec 06, 2005 04:54 AM [Another try to dp1.] 168704, dp1, Dec 07, 2005 03:15 AM [Pops] 168440, Renunciation, Dec 02, 2005 05:50 PM 168510, 1dadof5, Dec 03, 2005 06:11 PM 168477, poetsdreamscape, Dec 03, 2005 01:35 AM [christians] 168534, orolan, Dec 03, 2005 10:21 PM 168567, pop1, Dec 04, 2005 03:49 AM [My religion is with Jesus; my friendship...] 168593, poetsdreamscape, Dec 04, 2005 09:49 PM [religion bs] 168611, pop1, Dec 05, 2005 03:32 AM [reply to poetsdreamscape] 168634, dp1, Dec 05, 2005 12:24 PM 168789, pop1, Dec 07, 2005 06:50 PM [Reply to two of dp1 messages] 168822, pop1, Dec 07, 2005 10:58 PM [Forgive me.] 168936, dp1, Dec 08, 2005 04:25 PM [pops] 169344, pop1, Dec 13, 2005 02:54 AM [To dp1] 169376, pop1, Dec 13, 2005 03:57 PM [Added message to dp1] 169431, dp1, Dec 14, 2005 03:10 AM [pops] 169438, pop1, Dec 14, 2005 07:14 AM [To dp1] 169456, dp1, Dec 14, 2005 02:39 PM [pops] 169513, pop1, Dec 15, 2005 03:32 AM [To dp1] 169526, dp1, Dec 15, 2005 04:54 AM [Gramps] 169616, pop1, Dec 16, 2005 09:51 AM [To d...] 169441, dp1, Dec 14, 2005 07:33 AM 169444, dp1, Dec 14, 2005 07:54 AM 169478, Renunciation, Dec 14, 2005 04:50 PM 169503, pop1, Dec 15, 2005 01:43 AM [To dp: note I ...] 169477, dp1, Dec 14, 2005 04:47 PM [pops] 169506, pop1, Dec 15, 2005 02:19 AM [To dp1; I am a...] 169527, dp1, Dec 15, 2005 05:03 AM [Gramps] 169561, pop1, Dec 15, 2005 07:08 PM [Things I...] 169611, pop1, Dec 16, 2005 05:54 AM [Thank...] 168582, pop1, Dec 04, 2005 08:08 PM [Reply to dp1] 168633, dp1, Dec 05, 2005 12:11 PM [Pops] 168856, pop1, Dec 08, 2005 02:44 AM [Hey, dp1, thank you!] 168932, dp1, Dec 08, 2005 04:13 PM [pops] 168682, rodsmith, Dec 06, 2005 07:22 AM [pop1] 168646, dp1, Dec 05, 2005 02:29 PM [Good article about Lafave's Sentence] 168743, rabbitreborn, Dec 07, 2005 03:11 PM 168782, dp1, Dec 07, 2005 06:09 PM 168801, rabbitreborn, Dec 07, 2005 08:32 PM 168996, Renunciation, Dec 08, 2005 11:21 PM [Marion County Complicates Debbie Does Hom...] 169016, dp1, Dec 09, 2005 11:17 AM 169019, orolan, Dec 09, 2005 02:35 PM 169034, dp1, Dec 09, 2005 03:39 PM 169059, rodsmith, Dec 09, 2005 06:35 PM 169069, Renunciation, Dec 09, 2005 08:05 PM 169074, rabbitreborn, Dec 09, 2005 08:35 PM 169138, orolan, Dec 10, 2005 06:41 PM 169076, pop1, Dec 09, 2005 09:02 PM [To dp1] 169627, jzenman, Dec 16, 2005 03:20 PM 169652, dp1, Dec 16, 2005 08:56 PM [jzenman] 169762, StungOnTheNet, Dec 20, 2005 12:12 AM 169781, pop1, Dec 20, 2005 04:29 AM [dp1, may I get back to you?] 169799, dp1, Dec 20, 2005 04:37 PM [Gramps] 169830, pop1, Dec 21, 2005 04:06 AM [To dp1] 169677, pop1, Dec 17, 2005 05:39 PM [Hello, Messenger Boy] 169800, orolan, Dec 20, 2005 04:52 PM 169832, pop1, Dec 21, 2005 04:25 AM [Maybe you are right, Orolan.] 169681, Renunciation, Dec 17, 2005 06:17 PM 169697, pop1, Dec 18, 2005 01:09 AM [I worship Yahweh, not Allah.] 169703, Renunciation, Dec 18, 2005 06:35 AM 169718, orolan, Dec 18, 2005 07:51 PM 169731, pop1, Dec 19, 2005 01:18 AM [Where are you, Orolan/] 169745, orolan, Dec 19, 2005 02:57 PM 169757, pop1, Dec 19, 2005 06:56 PM [Forgive me, Orolan.] 169734, pop1, Dec 19, 2005 03:05 AM [Why, Father, don't You make us si...] 169729, pop1, Dec 19, 2005 12:49 AM [Good Bye, Renun.]
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