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Forum: In the News

Thread (Discussion): [Tampa Bay's 10 News] Teacher Debra LaFave now a sex offender


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Message 169344 (In Reply to Message 168936)
To dp1


Posted by
pop1 on Dec 13, 2005 02:54 AM | Also by pop1
Gender: Male, Age Bracket: 70+, State: Tennessee, Country: United States

dp1, Thank you for your message. I have a non-religious question. It's a question about a curiousity that has entered my mind. Note that I retired at 62 primarily because of politics entering the classroom. Could politics have something to do with Marion County rejecfting the sentence given by Hillsborough County court? Just curious. Now about a still further change in my praying for Debra Lafave.. Review the story about the prodical son. God allowed him to suffer so far as to eat sty slop. That's going pretty far, isn't it? But often God allows fallen ones to suffer a very long time before He convicts them. Look at Gomer, Hosea's wife. Again this poor woman fell far into the pit of hell before God let Hosea's love save her. The same is true of Jonah and others. So reviewing these Bible stories tells me that God may want Debra to go to prison before He convicts her. As I mentioned in my first message I have many concerns aboujt Debra, particvularly her fake angel smiles and croc-like tears. Debra doesn't show spirit. Instead she shows only fleshy ways. Really fleshy life styles. Now putting these concerns together seems to tell me that God may not be ready to answer our prayers for Debra. Debra first may have to have to find herself in a a desperate situation as did the prodical son. And prison just may be that desperate situation. Regardless, however, I still must continue praying with faith. The exception will be that I will guard myself against putting words into God's mouth. Now, to be sure, you are getting ideas about how I pray. Constantly I search and research scriptures for how I should pray. As I do this I constantly challenge how I pray and seek changes I should make Constantly this goes on. And I pray on how I should change. Already I have told you how I now pray for her to become more and more aware of her spirit and less aware of her flesh. To Orolan I now pray his analysis of his relationahsip with God is right. Yea, I'm concerned about him because I lke him. I want him to know my concerns about him are very few compared with my many, many concerns about Debra. After all, she went from teacher to criminal so fast I doubt if she realizes the gravity. I am sure she doesn't realize she has lost all dignity. About praying, this is the end for now. Have you thought more about praying? Aboujt my experiences as a teacher years ago I guess I could tell more. What more would you want me to tell? Something really wonderful just happened. One of my granddaujghters just graduated from college as a teacher.. Probably not fairly, but she now is my pet granddaughter. We talk much about today's teaching methods. Strangely they have taught her methds we used back years ago. So I have learned from her that methods come, go and come back again. She tells me they encourage a hands-on approach. Hey, that was called progressive education back after WW11. What a world? Love in Christ, pop1.

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Message 168936
pops


Posted by dp1 on Dec 08, 2005 04:25 PM | Also by dp1
Gender: Female, Age Bracket: N/A, State: Florida, Country: United States


Thread


167830, admin, Nov 22, 2005 01:58 PM [Introduction]
      168421, pop1, Dec 02, 2005 05:26 AM [Does Debra understand the gravity of her situation?]
            168424, dp1, Dec 02, 2005 02:48 PM [Hello and Welcome]
                  168438, rabbitreborn, Dec 02, 2005 05:11 PM
                  168445, pop1, Dec 02, 2005 07:08 PM [dp1, Could we share our observations?]
                        168474, orolan, Dec 03, 2005 12:45 AM
                              168846, pop1, Dec 08, 2005 01:42 AM [Orolan, I like you but ...]
                                    169003, orolan, Dec 09, 2005 12:01 AM
                        168575, dp1, Dec 04, 2005 07:31 AM [pop]
                              168681, pop1, Dec 06, 2005 04:54 AM [Another try to dp1.]
                                    168704, dp1, Dec 07, 2005 03:15 AM [Pops]
            168440, Renunciation, Dec 02, 2005 05:50 PM
                  168510, 1dadof5, Dec 03, 2005 06:11 PM
            168477, poetsdreamscape, Dec 03, 2005 01:35 AM [christians]
                  168534, orolan, Dec 03, 2005 10:21 PM
                        168567, pop1, Dec 04, 2005 03:49 AM [My religion is with Jesus; my friendship...]
                              168593, poetsdreamscape, Dec 04, 2005 09:49 PM [religion bs]
                                    168611, pop1, Dec 05, 2005 03:32 AM [reply to poetsdreamscape]
                                    168634, dp1, Dec 05, 2005 12:24 PM
                                          168789, pop1, Dec 07, 2005 06:50 PM [Reply to two of dp1 messages]
                                                168822, pop1, Dec 07, 2005 10:58 PM [Forgive me.]
                                                      168936, dp1, Dec 08, 2005 04:25 PM [pops]
                                                            169344, pop1, Dec 13, 2005 02:54 AM [To dp1]
                                                                  169376, pop1, Dec 13, 2005 03:57 PM [Added message to dp1]
                                                                        169431, dp1, Dec 14, 2005 03:10 AM [pops]
                                                                              169438, pop1, Dec 14, 2005 07:14 AM [To dp1]
                                                                                    169456, dp1, Dec 14, 2005 02:39 PM [pops]
                                                                                          169513, pop1, Dec 15, 2005 03:32 AM [To dp1]
                                                                                                169526, dp1, Dec 15, 2005 04:54 AM [Gramps]
                                                                                                      169616, pop1, Dec 16, 2005 09:51 AM [To d...]
                                                                  169441, dp1, Dec 14, 2005 07:33 AM
                                                                  169444, dp1, Dec 14, 2005 07:54 AM
                                                                        169478, Renunciation, Dec 14, 2005 04:50 PM
                                                                        169503, pop1, Dec 15, 2005 01:43 AM [To dp: note I ...]
                                                                  169477, dp1, Dec 14, 2005 04:47 PM [pops]
                                                                        169506, pop1, Dec 15, 2005 02:19 AM [To dp1; I am a...]
                                                                              169527, dp1, Dec 15, 2005 05:03 AM [Gramps]
                                                                                    169561, pop1, Dec 15, 2005 07:08 PM [Things I...]
                                                                                          169611, pop1, Dec 16, 2005 05:54 AM [Thank...]
      168582, pop1, Dec 04, 2005 08:08 PM [Reply to dp1]
            168633, dp1, Dec 05, 2005 12:11 PM [Pops]
                  168856, pop1, Dec 08, 2005 02:44 AM [Hey, dp1, thank you!]
                        168932, dp1, Dec 08, 2005 04:13 PM [pops]
            168682, rodsmith, Dec 06, 2005 07:22 AM [pop1]
      168646, dp1, Dec 05, 2005 02:29 PM [Good article about Lafave's Sentence]
            168743, rabbitreborn, Dec 07, 2005 03:11 PM
                  168782, dp1, Dec 07, 2005 06:09 PM
                        168801, rabbitreborn, Dec 07, 2005 08:32 PM
      168996, Renunciation, Dec 08, 2005 11:21 PM [Marion County Complicates Debbie Does Hom...]
            169016, dp1, Dec 09, 2005 11:17 AM
                  169019, orolan, Dec 09, 2005 02:35 PM
                        169034, dp1, Dec 09, 2005 03:39 PM
                              169059, rodsmith, Dec 09, 2005 06:35 PM
                                    169069, Renunciation, Dec 09, 2005 08:05 PM
                              169074, rabbitreborn, Dec 09, 2005 08:35 PM
                                    169138, orolan, Dec 10, 2005 06:41 PM
      169076, pop1, Dec 09, 2005 09:02 PM [To dp1]
      169627, jzenman, Dec 16, 2005 03:20 PM
            169652, dp1, Dec 16, 2005 08:56 PM [jzenman]
                  169762, StungOnTheNet, Dec 20, 2005 12:12 AM
                  169781, pop1, Dec 20, 2005 04:29 AM [dp1, may I get back to you?]
                        169799, dp1, Dec 20, 2005 04:37 PM [Gramps]
                              169830, pop1, Dec 21, 2005 04:06 AM [To dp1]
            169677, pop1, Dec 17, 2005 05:39 PM [Hello, Messenger Boy]
                  169800, orolan, Dec 20, 2005 04:52 PM
                        169832, pop1, Dec 21, 2005 04:25 AM [Maybe you are right, Orolan.]
            169681, Renunciation, Dec 17, 2005 06:17 PM
                  169697, pop1, Dec 18, 2005 01:09 AM [I worship Yahweh, not Allah.]
                        169703, Renunciation, Dec 18, 2005 06:35 AM
                              169718, orolan, Dec 18, 2005 07:51 PM
                                    169731, pop1, Dec 19, 2005 01:18 AM [Where are you, Orolan/]
                                          169745, orolan, Dec 19, 2005 02:57 PM
                                                169757, pop1, Dec 19, 2005 06:56 PM [Forgive me, Orolan.]
                                    169734, pop1, Dec 19, 2005 03:05 AM [Why, Father, don't You make us si...]
                              169729, pop1, Dec 19, 2005 12:49 AM [Good Bye, Renun.]

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