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Forum: In the News
Thread (Discussion): [Tampa Bay's 10 News] Teacher Debra LaFave now a sex offender
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Message 169003 (In Reply to Message 168846)
Posted by orolan
on Dec 09, 2005 12:01 AM | Also by orolan
| Gender: Male,
Age Bracket: 40 - 49,
State: N/A,
Country: United States |
Orolan, From your message I got the feeling you were more interested in my faults as a Christian than in the Christian perspective on criminality.
Sorry you took it that way. I'm not interested in your personal faults.
Sin is sin, is it not? Are there "major" sins and "minor" sins? Or are all sins equal in the eyes of God? Is the "Christian perspective" on criminality different than the perspective on blasphemy? Gluttony? Pride?
What exactly is the "Christian perspective" on crime? Is it what I see in the news all the time about sex offenders being thrown out of churches? Is it Jerry Falwell calling for mandatory castration? Pat Robertson calling for assassination of the President of Venezuela?
Or is it what I see every Sunday? A church with a pastor who lays brick all week long to pay the bills, drives an old truck instead of a new Cadillac, and has three registered sex offenders and a half-dozen other felons in his congregation? Here you have a black-and-white difference. Those in the other paragraph are "Christians". My pastor on the other hand has no need for such a label. He just loves and obeys God.
About Debra you noted she laughed when she was sentenced. You then said you didn't laugh when you were sentenced.
Precisely. I was overwhelmed with remorse and regret. She was tickled and thought it was all a big joke. Which judging by her sentence, it was.
You made me feel you were more interested in TIME than in what Christians call repentance. Time? That has nothing to do with how she and I felt on our respective sentencing days. As for repentance, are you trying to tell me that Debra has repented of her sins and she smiled because she was at peace with God about her crimes? Heck, I was at peace with God about mine. Didn't make me feel any better about what I had done. Sounds like you think that if a person kills someone and asks God for forgiveness and truly means it, they aren't supposed to feel bad about it?
What say you?
I feel great. Inside and out. I have no fear of facing God tomorrow should I die tonight. NONE of which has anything to do with my ability to empathize with victims of sexual abuse or to fully grasp the implications of my offense on my victim and her family. The two are not related.
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Message 168846
Orolan, I like you but ...
Posted by pop1
on Dec 08, 2005 01:42 AM | Also by pop1
| Gender: Male,
Age Bracket: 70+,
State: Tennessee,
Country: United States |
Thread
167830, admin, Nov 22, 2005 01:58 PM [Introduction]
168421, pop1, Dec 02, 2005 05:26 AM [Does Debra understand the gravity of her situation?]
168424, dp1, Dec 02, 2005 02:48 PM [Hello and Welcome]
168438, rabbitreborn, Dec 02, 2005 05:11 PM
168445, pop1, Dec 02, 2005 07:08 PM [dp1, Could we share our observations?]
168474, orolan, Dec 03, 2005 12:45 AM
168846, pop1, Dec 08, 2005 01:42 AM [Orolan, I like you but ...]
169003, orolan, Dec 09, 2005 12:01 AM
168575, dp1, Dec 04, 2005 07:31 AM [pop]
168681, pop1, Dec 06, 2005 04:54 AM [Another try to dp1.]
168704, dp1, Dec 07, 2005 03:15 AM [Pops]
168440, Renunciation, Dec 02, 2005 05:50 PM
168510, 1dadof5, Dec 03, 2005 06:11 PM
168477, poetsdreamscape, Dec 03, 2005 01:35 AM [christians]
168534, orolan, Dec 03, 2005 10:21 PM
168567, pop1, Dec 04, 2005 03:49 AM [My religion is with Jesus; my friendship...]
168593, poetsdreamscape, Dec 04, 2005 09:49 PM [religion bs]
168611, pop1, Dec 05, 2005 03:32 AM [reply to poetsdreamscape]
168634, dp1, Dec 05, 2005 12:24 PM
168789, pop1, Dec 07, 2005 06:50 PM [Reply to two of dp1 messages]
168822, pop1, Dec 07, 2005 10:58 PM [Forgive me.]
168936, dp1, Dec 08, 2005 04:25 PM [pops]
169344, pop1, Dec 13, 2005 02:54 AM [To dp1]
169376, pop1, Dec 13, 2005 03:57 PM [Added message to dp1]
169431, dp1, Dec 14, 2005 03:10 AM [pops]
169438, pop1, Dec 14, 2005 07:14 AM [To dp1]
169456, dp1, Dec 14, 2005 02:39 PM [pops]
169513, pop1, Dec 15, 2005 03:32 AM [To dp1]
169526, dp1, Dec 15, 2005 04:54 AM [Gramps]
169616, pop1, Dec 16, 2005 09:51 AM [To d...]
169441, dp1, Dec 14, 2005 07:33 AM
169444, dp1, Dec 14, 2005 07:54 AM
169478, Renunciation, Dec 14, 2005 04:50 PM
169503, pop1, Dec 15, 2005 01:43 AM [To dp: note I ...]
169477, dp1, Dec 14, 2005 04:47 PM [pops]
169506, pop1, Dec 15, 2005 02:19 AM [To dp1; I am a...]
169527, dp1, Dec 15, 2005 05:03 AM [Gramps]
169561, pop1, Dec 15, 2005 07:08 PM [Things I...]
169611, pop1, Dec 16, 2005 05:54 AM [Thank...]
168582, pop1, Dec 04, 2005 08:08 PM [Reply to dp1]
168633, dp1, Dec 05, 2005 12:11 PM [Pops]
168856, pop1, Dec 08, 2005 02:44 AM [Hey, dp1, thank you!]
168932, dp1, Dec 08, 2005 04:13 PM [pops]
168682, rodsmith, Dec 06, 2005 07:22 AM [pop1]
168646, dp1, Dec 05, 2005 02:29 PM [Good article about Lafave's Sentence]
168743, rabbitreborn, Dec 07, 2005 03:11 PM
168782, dp1, Dec 07, 2005 06:09 PM
168801, rabbitreborn, Dec 07, 2005 08:32 PM
168996, Renunciation, Dec 08, 2005 11:21 PM [Marion County Complicates Debbie Does Hom...]
169016, dp1, Dec 09, 2005 11:17 AM
169019, orolan, Dec 09, 2005 02:35 PM
169034, dp1, Dec 09, 2005 03:39 PM
169059, rodsmith, Dec 09, 2005 06:35 PM
169069, Renunciation, Dec 09, 2005 08:05 PM
169074, rabbitreborn, Dec 09, 2005 08:35 PM
169138, orolan, Dec 10, 2005 06:41 PM
169076, pop1, Dec 09, 2005 09:02 PM [To dp1]
169627, jzenman, Dec 16, 2005 03:20 PM
169652, dp1, Dec 16, 2005 08:56 PM [jzenman]
169762, StungOnTheNet, Dec 20, 2005 12:12 AM
169781, pop1, Dec 20, 2005 04:29 AM [dp1, may I get back to you?]
169799, dp1, Dec 20, 2005 04:37 PM [Gramps]
169830, pop1, Dec 21, 2005 04:06 AM [To dp1]
169677, pop1, Dec 17, 2005 05:39 PM [Hello, Messenger Boy]
169800, orolan, Dec 20, 2005 04:52 PM
169832, pop1, Dec 21, 2005 04:25 AM [Maybe you are right, Orolan.]
169681, Renunciation, Dec 17, 2005 06:17 PM
169697, pop1, Dec 18, 2005 01:09 AM [I worship Yahweh, not Allah.]
169703, Renunciation, Dec 18, 2005 06:35 AM
169718, orolan, Dec 18, 2005 07:51 PM
169731, pop1, Dec 19, 2005 01:18 AM [Where are you, Orolan/]
169745, orolan, Dec 19, 2005 02:57 PM
169757, pop1, Dec 19, 2005 06:56 PM [Forgive me, Orolan.]
169734, pop1, Dec 19, 2005 03:05 AM [Why, Father, don't You make us si...]
169729, pop1, Dec 19, 2005 12:49 AM [Good Bye, Renun.]
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