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Forum: In the News

Thread (Discussion): [Tampa Bay's 10 News] Teacher Debra LaFave now a sex offender

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Message 168474 (In Reply to Message 168445)


Posted by orolan on Dec 03, 2005 12:45 AM | Also by orolan
Gender: Male, Age Bracket: 40 - 49, State: N/A, Country: United States
Through the media I note she led a series of romances through her teens, all of which seem to have been broken romances.

What teen hasn't? I did. Did you? Rare is the 8th-grade crush that turns in to a lifelong marriage and commitment.
So Debra apparantly grew up in a recreational sex surrounding (hedonistic).

I grew up in a nudist/naturist surrounding capped off by 4 1/2 years in a foreign country where being married at 14 and having a couple children by 18 is the norm not the exception and marijuana (Acapulco Gold no less) was available for 100 pesos a kilo ($5 bucks). Doesn't get any more "recreational" than that.
That to me means she had no opportunity to learn anything except deeds of the flesh.

I see. Funny you should say that. Because my mother and stepfather were missionaries in that country where sex started early and drugs were easily available. I was partaking of both. Yet I had ample opportunity to learn plenty besides "deeds of the flesh". I smoked marijuana to give me strength as I hiked 40 miles up into the mountains to carry the Word to Mixteco Indians who had never even seen a cigarette lighter and thought the Aeromexico jets flying overhead at 30,000 feet were the Great Spirit's messengers.
I respect your opinion.

After what I've said above, will you respect mine?

Curious if you pray for ALL sex offenders? Or just the "pretty ones"? Do you and your groups pray for John Couey's soul as well? Do you pray that Mark Lunsford will one day forgive him, since the alternative is to be barred entrance to heaven? Do you pray that Joseph Smith will get right with God before he meets Ol' Sparky?

Debra LeFave, as DP1 said, thinks only of herself. That is quite evident. Yes, it is difficult to go from recently convicted offender to empathetic remorseful offender. I know because it's been nearly 9 years and I'm still not there yet. A lot closer than I was 3 years ago, but still a long way to go. And I wasn't smiling when I got sentenced. Now if I was already headed in the right direction and STILL haven't arrived, how long do you suppose it will take LeFave to even realize she's walking in the wrong direction before she can turn around and get started in the right one?

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Message 168445
dp1, Could we share our observations?


Posted by pop1 on Dec 02, 2005 07:08 PM | Also by pop1
Gender: Male, Age Bracket: 70+, State: Tennessee, Country: United States

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167830, admin, Nov 22, 2005 01:58 PM [Introduction]
      168421, pop1, Dec 02, 2005 05:26 AM [Does Debra understand the gravity of her situation?]
            168424, dp1, Dec 02, 2005 02:48 PM [Hello and Welcome]
                  168438, rabbitreborn, Dec 02, 2005 05:11 PM
                  168445, pop1, Dec 02, 2005 07:08 PM [dp1, Could we share our observations?]
                        168474, orolan, Dec 03, 2005 12:45 AM
                              168846, pop1, Dec 08, 2005 01:42 AM [Orolan, I like you but ...]
                                    169003, orolan, Dec 09, 2005 12:01 AM
                        168575, dp1, Dec 04, 2005 07:31 AM [pop]
                              168681, pop1, Dec 06, 2005 04:54 AM [Another try to dp1.]
                                    168704, dp1, Dec 07, 2005 03:15 AM [Pops]
            168440, Renunciation, Dec 02, 2005 05:50 PM
                  168510, 1dadof5, Dec 03, 2005 06:11 PM
            168477, poetsdreamscape, Dec 03, 2005 01:35 AM [christians]
                  168534, orolan, Dec 03, 2005 10:21 PM
                        168567, pop1, Dec 04, 2005 03:49 AM [My religion is with Jesus; my friendship...]
                              168593, poetsdreamscape, Dec 04, 2005 09:49 PM [religion bs]
                                    168611, pop1, Dec 05, 2005 03:32 AM [reply to poetsdreamscape]
                                    168634, dp1, Dec 05, 2005 12:24 PM
                                          168789, pop1, Dec 07, 2005 06:50 PM [Reply to two of dp1 messages]
                                                168822, pop1, Dec 07, 2005 10:58 PM [Forgive me.]
                                                      168936, dp1, Dec 08, 2005 04:25 PM [pops]
                                                            169344, pop1, Dec 13, 2005 02:54 AM [To dp1]
                                                                  169376, pop1, Dec 13, 2005 03:57 PM [Added message to dp1]
                                                                        169431, dp1, Dec 14, 2005 03:10 AM [pops]
                                                                              169438, pop1, Dec 14, 2005 07:14 AM [To dp1]
                                                                                    169456, dp1, Dec 14, 2005 02:39 PM [pops]
                                                                                          169513, pop1, Dec 15, 2005 03:32 AM [To dp1]
                                                                                                169526, dp1, Dec 15, 2005 04:54 AM [Gramps]
                                                                                                      169616, pop1, Dec 16, 2005 09:51 AM [To d...]
                                                                  169441, dp1, Dec 14, 2005 07:33 AM
                                                                  169444, dp1, Dec 14, 2005 07:54 AM
                                                                        169478, Renunciation, Dec 14, 2005 04:50 PM
                                                                        169503, pop1, Dec 15, 2005 01:43 AM [To dp: note I ...]
                                                                  169477, dp1, Dec 14, 2005 04:47 PM [pops]
                                                                        169506, pop1, Dec 15, 2005 02:19 AM [To dp1; I am a...]
                                                                              169527, dp1, Dec 15, 2005 05:03 AM [Gramps]
                                                                                    169561, pop1, Dec 15, 2005 07:08 PM [Things I...]
                                                                                          169611, pop1, Dec 16, 2005 05:54 AM [Thank...]
      168582, pop1, Dec 04, 2005 08:08 PM [Reply to dp1]
            168633, dp1, Dec 05, 2005 12:11 PM [Pops]
                  168856, pop1, Dec 08, 2005 02:44 AM [Hey, dp1, thank you!]
                        168932, dp1, Dec 08, 2005 04:13 PM [pops]
            168682, rodsmith, Dec 06, 2005 07:22 AM [pop1]
      168646, dp1, Dec 05, 2005 02:29 PM [Good article about Lafave's Sentence]
            168743, rabbitreborn, Dec 07, 2005 03:11 PM
                  168782, dp1, Dec 07, 2005 06:09 PM
                        168801, rabbitreborn, Dec 07, 2005 08:32 PM
      168996, Renunciation, Dec 08, 2005 11:21 PM [Marion County Complicates Debbie Does Hom...]
            169016, dp1, Dec 09, 2005 11:17 AM
                  169019, orolan, Dec 09, 2005 02:35 PM
                        169034, dp1, Dec 09, 2005 03:39 PM
                              169059, rodsmith, Dec 09, 2005 06:35 PM
                                    169069, Renunciation, Dec 09, 2005 08:05 PM
                              169074, rabbitreborn, Dec 09, 2005 08:35 PM
                                    169138, orolan, Dec 10, 2005 06:41 PM
      169076, pop1, Dec 09, 2005 09:02 PM [To dp1]
      169627, jzenman, Dec 16, 2005 03:20 PM
            169652, dp1, Dec 16, 2005 08:56 PM [jzenman]
                  169762, StungOnTheNet, Dec 20, 2005 12:12 AM
                  169781, pop1, Dec 20, 2005 04:29 AM [dp1, may I get back to you?]
                        169799, dp1, Dec 20, 2005 04:37 PM [Gramps]
                              169830, pop1, Dec 21, 2005 04:06 AM [To dp1]
            169677, pop1, Dec 17, 2005 05:39 PM [Hello, Messenger Boy]
                  169800, orolan, Dec 20, 2005 04:52 PM
                        169832, pop1, Dec 21, 2005 04:25 AM [Maybe you are right, Orolan.]
            169681, Renunciation, Dec 17, 2005 06:17 PM
                  169697, pop1, Dec 18, 2005 01:09 AM [I worship Yahweh, not Allah.]
                        169703, Renunciation, Dec 18, 2005 06:35 AM
                              169718, orolan, Dec 18, 2005 07:51 PM
                                    169731, pop1, Dec 19, 2005 01:18 AM [Where are you, Orolan/]
                                          169745, orolan, Dec 19, 2005 02:57 PM
                                                169757, pop1, Dec 19, 2005 06:56 PM [Forgive me, Orolan.]
                                    169734, pop1, Dec 19, 2005 03:05 AM [Why, Father, don't You make us si...]
                              169729, pop1, Dec 19, 2005 12:49 AM [Good Bye, Renun.]
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