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Forum: In the News
Thread (Discussion): [Gazette.com] Police post sex offender details online
Message 167828 Introduction
Posted by admin
on Nov 22, 2005 01:58 PM | Also by admin
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Discuss the article Police post sex offender details online, by Anslee Willett and Ed Sealover, which appeared on Gazette.com on November 22, 2005.
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Message 168297 (In Reply to Message 167828)
Posted by rabbitreborn
on Nov 30, 2005 07:52 PM | Also by rabbitreborn
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Authorities say the registries are needed because sex offenders are considered high risks to reoffend.
The registry was already in place and the citizens if they are concerned had the option to request a CD with the offenders names and locations from the police department for the small fee of $15.
“It’s a behavioral disorder that can’t be cured,” said 4th Judicial Deputy District Attorney Gail Warkentin, head of the DA’s special victims unit, which prosecutes sex offenders.
If it's a behavioral disorder then they need to rethink their prosecution tactics because behavioral disorders are considered mental disorders and people with mental disorders are typically not legally responsible for their actions.
“Sex offenders act in secret. They’re very covert in the way they commit their crimes. In that way, they’re very dangerous.”
I'm pretty sure that MOST criminals try to act in secret. I can't for the life of me imagine a cat burglar running around with a huge spotlight shining on him.
The Web site has a disclaimer, which users must agree to, that the information can’t be used to harass, intimidate or seek retribution from offenders. If it is, criminal charges can be filed.
note the word "can" in that statement. Chances are that not one person WILL be prosecuted.
“A person convicted of murder, extortion or kidnapping would not spend the rest of their life being branded a murderer, extortionist or whatever,” Heimlicher said.
No, but if you have ever been convicted of a sex offense, you will be branded for life.
Victim advocates warn that the sex-offender lists are incomplete because an estimated 84 percent of sexual assaults go unreported. Most sex offenders aren’t caught.
Oh great!!! Now how in the world are we supposed to protect the children from all these potential sex offenders that aren't listed?? OMG does this mean victim advocates are expressing the need for parents to actually WATCH their children??? Won't that take away from their lifestyle if they actually have to do the parenting thing?
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Message 168354 (In Reply to Message 168297) Doing the Math
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Victim advocates warn that the sex-offender lists are incomplete because an estimated 84 percent of sexual assaults go unreported. Most sex offenders aren’t caught.
If there is an estimated 84% of sexual assaults that go unreported, and we assume there are 500,000 registered sex offenders, then that means there are 2,625,000 people who aren't registered but should be. Seems I would be more worried about these 2,625,000 unreported sex offenders than the 500,000 who are registered. Assuming 600,000 registered sex offenders means that there are 3,150,000 people who should be registered as a sex offender if their crime was reported and prosecuted. So why aren't these crimes being reported? Have we gone so overboard with the post conviction sex offender laws that people aren't reporting the crimes because they don't want to inflict that type of punishment on the offender?
--Navigatr1
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Message 168392 (In Reply to Message 168297)
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on Dec 01, 2005 05:37 PM | Also by orolan
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Authorities say the registries are needed because sex offenders are considered high risks to reoffend.
Considered by who? Everything I see says the opposite. Doesn't say "no" risk to reoffend, but it doesn't say "high" risk either. Hence the need for some balance and common sense.
It’s a behavioral disorder that can’t be cured
Really? Hate to quote Victoria but with the AOC 16 in some states and 18 in others apparently a propensity to have sex with 17 year-olds is either a curable disease or a contagion depending on which side of the state line you're on. All sex offenses can apprently be caused OR cured simply by an act of the legislature.
I can't for the life of me imagine a cat burglar running around with a huge spotlight shining on him.
Now who's writing for the comics page;-)) I can see it now.
"This is Geraldo Rivera and tonight we're following cat burglar Tom Smith through a night's work. You'll see death defying climbs, lock-picking skills that rival Houdini......."
an estimated 84 percent of sexual assaults go unreported
I'm dying to know where that stat came from. Even the extremely flawed NCVS doesn't point to a number that high.
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Thread 167828, admin, Nov 22, 2005 01:58 PM [Introduction] 168297, rabbitreborn, Nov 30, 2005 07:52 PM 168354, Navigatr1, Dec 01, 2005 05:21 AM [Doing the Math] 168392, orolan, Dec 01, 2005 05:37 PM
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