|
|
Forum: In the News
Thread (Discussion): [KCCI.com] Sex offender's bond set at $1.5M
Message 164001
Introduction
Posted by admin
on Oct 09, 2005 06:22 PM | Also by admin
| Gender: N/A,
Age Bracket: N/A,
State: N/A,
Country: N/A |
Discuss the article Sex offender's bond set at $1.5M, which appeared on KCCI.com on October 05, 2005.
Forum Home
| Top of Thread
Message 164009 (In Reply to Message 164001)
Posted by Renunciation
on Oct 09, 2005 11:15 PM | Also by Renunciation
| Gender: N/A,
Age Bracket: N/A,
State: N/A,
Country: Bahrain |
Doesn't Iowa have banishment laws to protect the public from these sorts of crimes?
Rape at knifepoint?
Now a 20 month old kid?
Lock him in a room with Valerie, lol.
I just cannot understand how the 2000 foot rule did not protect this poor child?
Forum Home
| Top of Thread | Jump To Parent (164001)
Message 164015 (In Reply to Message 164001)
Posted by artie
on Oct 10, 2005 12:45 AM | Also by artie
| Gender: Male,
Age Bracket: N/A,
State: Florida,
Country: United States |
I know it's out of reach anyway but why give him bond at all?
Forum Home
| Top of Thread | Jump To Parent (164001)
Message 164018 (In Reply to Message 164001)
Posted by orolan
on Oct 10, 2005 12:57 AM | Also by orolan
| Gender: Male,
Age Bracket: N/A,
State: N/A,
Country: United States |
Too bad for him. He should have been a cop who raped his daughters for 13 years. Could have got out on a simple signature bond then.
Forum Home
| Top of Thread | Jump To Parent (164001)
Message 164036 (In Reply to Message 164018)
Posted by dp1
on Oct 10, 2005 07:06 AM | Also by dp1
| Gender: Female,
Age Bracket: N/A,
State: Florida,
Country: United States |
Maybe if it was a 'belated' kidnapping and sexual abuse charge he could have been ROR'd:-)
Forum Home
| Top of Thread | Jump To Parent (164018)
Message 164203 (In Reply to Message 164036)
Posted by mawmaw
on Oct 11, 2005 10:39 PM | Also by mawmaw
| Gender: Female,
Age Bracket: N/A,
State: Pennsylvania,
Country: United States |
Hog wash ! Stuff him in a hole !
That 20 mo.child is a baby ! Dont you know it cried,was bleeding and they had to get thru the door to stop him from raping the baby....while he got his cookies !
No excuse !
Forum Home
| Top of Thread | Jump To Parent (164036)
Message 164236 (In Reply to Message 164203)
Posted by 1dadof5
on Oct 12, 2005 05:54 AM | Also by 1dadof5
| Gender: Male,
Age Bracket: N/A,
State: Indiana,
Country: United States |
This guy is a fine example of why we have registries. Hopefully, he wont need to register as he should get 50 years. Guys like this ARE like Couey and Onstott. This guy wont change.
Forum Home
| Top of Thread | Jump To Parent (164203)
Message 164258 (In Reply to Message 164236)
Posted by artie
on Oct 12, 2005 12:30 PM | Also by artie
| Gender: Male,
Age Bracket: N/A,
State: Florida,
Country: United States |
Yes, 1dad, this is a fine example of why we have registries. BECAUSE THE COURTS DIDN'T DO THIER JOB IN THE FIRST PLACE. How dare they send guys like this back on the street and let us know that he is dangerous but now that we know, hey not the governments problem any more!
How 'bout we get rid of the registries and spend the money keeping these....(calm down artie).....And incarcerating the heinous fiends forever. Don't saturate us with non-violent, non-dangerous politically motivated refistrants. Free the ones deemed to be likely to get along and fry the rest for all I care.
I take it back, THIS is what is WRONG with registries. Because of these registries, it made it "OK " (both index fingers and middle fingers wiggling in the air emulating the quotation marks) to put this "Sex Offender" on the street. HE IS A RAPIST for God's sake!
Forum Home
| Top of Thread | Jump To Parent (164236)
Message 164269 (In Reply to Message 164236)
Posted by Valerie
on Oct 12, 2005 01:22 PM | Also by Valerie
| Gender: Female,
Age Bracket: N/A,
State: Florida,
Country: United States |
This link isnt available ..but you have to wonder about some animal like this..he must have a long history of violence under his belt...did it say how old he is?
Forum Home
| Top of Thread | Jump To Parent (164236)
Message 164341 (In Reply to Message 164269)
Posted by orolan
on Oct 12, 2005 09:27 PM | Also by orolan
| Gender: Male,
Age Bracket: N/A,
State: N/A,
Country: United States |
he must have a long history of violence under his belt.
A violent rape in Texas in 2003. Yes, 2003. January to be exact. Less than three years ago he raped a 31 year-old woman at knife-point. And he's on the streets.
In Iowa he was arrested three time in four months, each time getting off with a slap.
did it say how old he is?
32
Forum Home
| Top of Thread | Jump To Parent (164269)
Message 164367 (In Reply to Message 164341)
Posted by Valerie
on Oct 13, 2005 01:37 AM | Also by Valerie
| Gender: Female,
Age Bracket: N/A,
State: Florida,
Country: United States |
and people wonder why there are vigilanties....think about it, really think about it...if you knew this guys history and he moved in down the street...how would you really feel? and tell me what you would really do?
Forum Home
| Top of Thread | Jump To Parent (164341)
Message 164378 (In Reply to Message 164367)
Posted by artie
on Oct 13, 2005 02:28 AM | Also by artie
| Gender: Male,
Age Bracket: N/A,
State: Florida,
Country: United States |
I guess I would run a background check on him.
Based on the information available, further scrutiny would be appropriate.
Then I would go knock on the door and talk with him. I'd bring up the stuff not readily available on the internet.
Depending if he is in the denial or sorry stage would steer my next moves.
Forum Home
| Top of Thread | Jump To Parent (164367)
Message 165120 (In Reply to Message 164367)
Posted by orolan
on Oct 20, 2005 05:47 PM | Also by orolan
| Gender: Male,
Age Bracket: N/A,
State: N/A,
Country: United States |
I'd have the very same anger I have now about how lax the courts are in this country towards repeat violent felons. Your state happens to hold the championship trophy for that one. Eight violent felonies before you go to prison is pretty sad.
Forum Home
| Top of Thread | Jump To Parent (164367)
Message 165158 (In Reply to Message 164001)
access
Posted by myoung
on Oct 21, 2005 05:33 AM | Also by myoung
| Gender: N/A,
Age Bracket: N/A,
State: Pennsylvania,
Country: United States |
Um, I am racking my brain trying to figure out how this guy got access to a 20 month old in the library without the parent being aware? I'm not blaming the parent at all here since I know how quick little one's can be when they run off....but I just can't imagine that no one saw or heard before he got that far. It must have looked suspicious to see a man walking into the mens room with a little girl. I guess the bathroom wasn't in plain sight?? (me shaking my head)....sad. This is someone who doesn't belong among us. He is an opportunistic hunter who creates his own opportunities....that's scary
Forum Home
| Top of Thread | Jump To Parent (164001)
Message 165176 (In Reply to Message 165158)
Posted by Valerie
on Oct 21, 2005 03:03 PM | Also by Valerie
| Gender: Female,
Age Bracket: N/A,
State: Florida,
Country: United States |
Ah then Orolan you cant really blame me for such a bitter attitude Uh? So what is it Florida too tough on offenders or too soft? You guys go back and forth....
Forum Home
| Top of Thread | Jump To Parent (165158)
Message 165231 (In Reply to Message 165158)
Posted by Navigatr1
on Oct 22, 2005 04:13 AM | Also by Navigatr1
| Gender: N/A,
Age Bracket: N/A,
State: N/A,
Country: United States |
myoung wrote:
It must have looked suspicious to see a man walking into the mens room with a little girl.
I see men all the time bring their little girls into the mens room and don't think anything of it. They need to help the child use the potty or at least monitor them. Do you see women bring little boys into the restroom? You probably don't think anything about it. Or do you suspect that they are molesting these little boys?
You are correct about little ones running off quickly though. Some 20-month-olds are pretty quick. So my question would be, how long did it take the parent to notice that their daughter was missing? I haven't read the story, so I don't know the details. Nor am I saying they are necessarily bad parents either. Libraries nowadays offer a multitude of services from tapes/cds, movies, books, periodicals, and computers with and without Internet access. It is quite possible that the parent got too rapped up in whatever service they were using at the library, and didn't notice their child had ran off. Still not an excuse for the child to be sexually abused, but where is the parents responsibility in all of this?
--Navigatr1
Forum Home
| Top of Thread | Jump To Parent (165158)
Message 165241 (In Reply to Message 165231)
Posted by Valerie
on Oct 22, 2005 12:10 PM | Also by Valerie
| Gender: Female,
Age Bracket: N/A,
State: Florida,
Country: United States |
You have never once witnessed a woman taking her male child in the men's bathroom...it is never done...at least not in this country...
Forum Home
| Top of Thread | Jump To Parent (165231)
Message 165255 (In Reply to Message 165241)
Posted by Navigatr1
on Oct 22, 2005 03:16 PM | Also by Navigatr1
| Gender: N/A,
Age Bracket: N/A,
State: N/A,
Country: United States |
Actually, I have witnessed women taking their little boys in the restroom with them as well as their little girls. The same goes for men. I have seen them take their little boy or girl into the restroom with them. So it is done in this country. It is not a phenomenon limited to a particuliar state or region either, but happens all the time all over this country.
--Navigatr1
Forum Home
| Top of Thread | Jump To Parent (165241)
Message 165267 (In Reply to Message 165255)
Posted by Valerie
on Oct 22, 2005 04:08 PM | Also by Valerie
| Gender: Female,
Age Bracket: N/A,
State: Florida,
Country: United States |
Go get another cup of coffee these post are so unlike you today...women going into mens rooms...read again..
Forum Home
| Top of Thread | Jump To Parent (165255)
Message 165276 (In Reply to Message 165158)
Posted by orolan
on Oct 22, 2005 06:54 PM | Also by orolan
| Gender: Male,
Age Bracket: N/A,
State: N/A,
Country: United States |
Because the teenager babysitting her was too busy at the computer having cyber-sex with her boyfriend on AOL. It was right there in the story.
Well, not the cyber part. But she sat down at the computer and started chatting away, oblivious to where the child was. Heck, the guy could have walked out the door with the child and been in the next state before the girl figured out the child was gone.
Forum Home
| Top of Thread | Jump To Parent (165158)
Message 165277 (In Reply to Message 165176)
Posted by orolan
on Oct 22, 2005 07:02 PM | Also by orolan
| Gender: Male,
Age Bracket: N/A,
State: N/A,
Country: United States |
What ARE you talking about?
Florida is suffering from sun damage. You let 7-time violent felons back out on the street and say they're harmless and then you pass mandatory 25-year sentences for butt-patters and tell them "go ahead and have sex with her and we'll let you out in 5 years instead." You refuse to convict anybody of capital sexual battery, because for some reason you don't have the guts to actually fry somebody for raping a two year-old. You'd rather put them on the street and say its safe because everybody knows where they live.
That's the trouble with your state. There's no clear direction, no clear consensus on crime and punishment. Just a hodge-podge of knee-jerk laws passed without any serious thought as to their worth or effectiveness. I think the Criminal Code in Florida is due for trashing and a complete rewrite from the ground up. And put it in the Constitution instead of the Statutes so it takes a statewide referendum to make changes to it. That will stop the stupidity, or at least slow it down.
Forum Home
| Top of Thread | Jump To Parent (165176)
Message 165289 (In Reply to Message 165267)
Posted by Navigatr1
on Oct 23, 2005 02:37 AM | Also by Navigatr1
| Gender: N/A,
Age Bracket: N/A,
State: N/A,
Country: United States |
Maybe I ought to start drinking coffee. You got me with that one.
--Navigatr1
Forum Home
| Top of Thread | Jump To Parent (165267)
Message 165290 (In Reply to Message 165276)
Posted by Navigatr1
on Oct 23, 2005 02:45 AM | Also by Navigatr1
| Gender: N/A,
Age Bracket: N/A,
State: N/A,
Country: United States |
http://www.kcci.com/news/5056421/detail.html
Capt. Kelly Willis, of the Des Moines Police Department, said the baby sitter was using the Internet and the child was playing with toys near her feet. The girl then wandered off. The baby sitter asked where the child was and that alerted the library staff to start a search.
I had to go look it up when you mentioned the babysitter was using the Internet at the library. They should charge the babysitter with child neglect or something. She needs to be held accountable for not properly watching this child. She shouldn't have been on the Internet anyway while she was watching her.
--Navigatr1
Forum Home
| Top of Thread | Jump To Parent (165276)
Message 165352 (In Reply to Message 165267)
Posted by Renunciation
on Oct 23, 2005 11:21 PM | Also by Renunciation
| Gender: N/A,
Age Bracket: N/A,
State: N/A,
Country: Bahrain |
I have seen adult women in mens restrooms many times.
At the racetrack, the ballgame and the fair.
I have never, as you said, seen an adult women take a child into the mens restroom, but I have seen many many times, adult men with little boys and girls in the mens restrooms.
Forum Home
| Top of Thread | Jump To Parent (165267)
Message 165354 (In Reply to Message 165290)
Posted by orolan
on Oct 24, 2005 02:45 AM | Also by orolan
| Gender: Male,
Age Bracket: N/A,
State: N/A,
Country: United States |
I'm waiting on the posts claiming she was probably doing something like a homework assignment and got so engrossed in the nuances of the chain rule in differential calculus that she completely forgot the kid.
More likely she was feeding her Neopets.
Forum Home
| Top of Thread | Jump To Parent (165290)
Message 165382 (In Reply to Message 165255)
Nav
Posted by myoung
on Oct 24, 2005 02:31 PM | Also by myoung
| Gender: N/A,
Age Bracket: N/A,
State: Pennsylvania,
Country: United States |
I have NEVER seen a man take their little girl into the mens room with them. As a matter of fact, most of the father's I know won't take their little girls shopping or anything else unless they have the ability to allow someone else to go into the womens' room with them. Also, they don't like to do it until the girls are independent enough to take care of their business alone. Men's bathrooms don't always have stall doors and they are peeing right out where the girl can see.....so, not too many women are okay with father's taking their daughters into mens bathrooms and rightfully so
Womens' bathrooms, on the other hand, are much more private. It's almost no different than going in your own home. Every stall has a door.
Forum Home
| Top of Thread | Jump To Parent (165255)
Message 165383 (In Reply to Message 165255)
Nav
Posted by myoung
on Oct 24, 2005 02:36 PM | Also by myoung
| Gender: N/A,
Age Bracket: N/A,
State: Pennsylvania,
Country: United States |
this is a little off the subject but it speaks to parental neglect....a new indoor water park just opened near my home and my daughter got a job as a lifeguard. It isn't even officially opened yet but the execs kids are able to use the facilities. So....yesterday, my daughter comes home and tells me that a 4 year old girl was found climbing up the VERY HIGH staircase that takes the technicians up along side the slides to fix them. When my daughter noticed her, she ran up to get her. They couldn't find the parents ANYWHERE!! What is wrong with people?? She could have easily fallen off that staircase and it's like several stories in the air because it is the maintenance stairs for an aquacoaster!!
Forum Home
| Top of Thread | Jump To Parent (165255)
Message 165478 (In Reply to Message 164367)
Posted by 1dadof5
on Oct 26, 2005 05:48 AM | Also by 1dadof5
| Gender: Male,
Age Bracket: N/A,
State: Indiana,
Country: United States |
and people wonder why there are vigilanties....think about it, really think about it...if you knew this guys history and he moved in down the street...how would you really feel? and tell me what you would really do?
Id invite him to go out on my boat with me. And then I will come back alone. No one will ever, EVER find him. No one will suspect a thing, and no one would care
Forum Home
| Top of Thread | Jump To Parent (164367)
Message 165488 (In Reply to Message 164367)
Posted by Navigatr1
on Oct 26, 2005 01:59 PM | Also by Navigatr1
| Gender: N/A,
Age Bracket: N/A,
State: N/A,
Country: United States |
I probably wouldn't like it. Of coarse, if I knew the criminal histories of ALL my neighbors, say living within a mile radius of me, I wouldn't like them either. However, it does not mean that I take the law into my own hands by turning into a vigilante because I disagreed with the sentence they received for their crimes.
Just to make it perfectly clear, I am not defending what this guy supposedly did.
--Navigatr1
Forum Home
| Top of Thread | Jump To Parent (164367)
Message 165806 (In Reply to Message 165352)
Posted by orolan
on Oct 30, 2005 01:44 AM | Also by orolan
| Gender: Male,
Age Bracket: N/A,
State: N/A,
Country: United States |
I have seen many many times, adult men with little boys and girls in the mens restrooms.
Been there done that. A LOT of times. I never knew a little girl could have to pee 5 times in one trip to Wal-Mart, and I usually had all three of them with me:-((
Forum Home
| Top of Thread | Jump To Parent (165352)
Message 165944 (In Reply to Message 164001)
steve, sad...
Posted by anti
on Oct 31, 2005 11:46 PM | Also by anti
| Gender: N/A,
Age Bracket: N/A,
State: N/A,
Country: United States |
and I would be very suprised to find out that he did not frequent that library on pc, looking at cp.
anti
Forum Home
| Top of Thread | Jump To Parent (164001)
Message 166086 (In Reply to Message 165276)
Library
Posted by rarepearl1
on Nov 01, 2005 06:02 PM | Also by rarepearl1
| Gender: Male,
Age Bracket: N/A,
State: Iowa,
Country: United States |
The guy in the library wanted to go to prison, it was said, later. He tried to get locked up several times, but they only gave him 30 days for the OWI. The restroom is only a short distance from where the girl was sitting at the computer. When the girl asked if anyone had seen the child, the staff started searching and found the bathroom door locked. They opened it with a screwdriver, and the staff held the guy in the restroom until the cops got there. He lived over a mile away, in a shelter, so it had nothing to do with 2,000 feet. What was really surprising was that he had, as Orolan said, only been convicted of a violent rape in 2003. Why was he out? Texas is usually tougher on that sort of thing. Perhaps, as Iowa was aware of all the facts prior, if the Polk County attorney had been on the job, there might have been reasonable cause to petition him for civil commitment, with the past violence, and the trouble he was getting himself in as soon as he stepped into Iowa. They have the authority here to petition when there has been a recent overt act, whether a person is charged or convicted. They do it to guys in prison every day, whether he fits the profile or not.
Forum Home
| Top of Thread | Jump To Parent (165276)
Message 169588 (In Reply to Message 164001)
Posted by StungOnTheNet
on Dec 15, 2005 10:11 PM | Also by StungOnTheNet
| Gender: Male,
Age Bracket: N/A,
State: California,
Country: United States |
Let's see. On the same weekend I was arrested or internet solicitation of a 15 year old in February of 2004, their were 22 people arrested for everything from burglary, attempted murder, DUI manslaughter, and similar offenses. Here are three of them:
The burglary bond was 5,000.
The DUI manslaughter was 20,000 (the person killed was, interestingly enough, 15 years old)
The attempted murder was 150,000. (person ended up dying, so murder was eventually charged)
And my bond for trying to hook up with a 15 year old from the internet?
1 million.
I am just as passionate, if not more passionate, than the average non-offender about keeping this guy off the street. But the bottom line is that if we have a less-than-zero tolerance for child abuse ("less than" meaning "societally-abusive post-corrective measures"), then we risk the wrath of permanent in-societal banishment. Make sure the punishment fits the crime.
Forum Home
| Top of Thread | Jump To Parent (164001)
Message 169598 (In Reply to Message 169588)
Posted by orolan
on Dec 16, 2005 03:49 AM | Also by orolan
| Gender: Male,
Age Bracket: N/A,
State: N/A,
Country: United States |
Same thing here. We have a church youth leader accused of misconduct with a 15 year-old boy. Bond set at $350,000
Meanwhile, the meth lab king with three prior felonies that got busted a fourth time with meth with a street value of $140,000 along with 2 1/2 kilos of pot and 3 firearms that had the serial numbers filed off got out on $25,000 bond.
Funny thing. He didn't show up for pre-trial. Nobody's seen him since he walked out of the jail, including his lawyer.
Forum Home
| Top of Thread | Jump To Parent (169588)
Message 169610 (In Reply to Message 169598)
Posted by 1dadof5
on Dec 16, 2005 05:50 AM | Also by 1dadof5
| Gender: Male,
Age Bracket: N/A,
State: Indiana,
Country: United States |
it just shows how misguided our country has become and how in the ferver to go after "tree pissers" we have totally forgotten about the truly dangerous. We seem to care more about locking up the guy who touched the 15 year old's butt than the person who killed her. I just dont get it
kill the teen while drunk driving= 7 years
touch her backside=25 years
i just dont get how that is protecting the kids
Forum Home
| Top of Thread | Jump To Parent (169598)
Message 169639 (In Reply to Message 169610)
Posted by Renunciation
on Dec 16, 2005 05:41 PM | Also by Renunciation
| Gender: N/A,
Age Bracket: N/A,
State: N/A,
Country: Bahrain |
I was "in" with someone who killed a family of three while driving drunk. Had a previous DWI that included another accident.
He was released before me, and he was initially treated better than me, as we all know how loved SOs are when they first get in. I actually WAS a popular and well-like feller by the time I got out......... but anyway........
Killed three people. We will get off probation about the same time, he will be able to move about rather freely, I will not.
However.............................. If he ever grows a conscious, he will have a rought mental life. It disgusted me to see him all happy and jovial during rec and complaining about the cell temps and the food.
Face ot folks, RSOs are even lower than murderers. Sad fact.
Forum Home
| Top of Thread | Jump To Parent (169610)
Message 169761 (In Reply to Message 166086)
Posted by suicidalnut
on Dec 19, 2005 10:55 PM | Also by suicidalnut
| Gender: Male,
Age Bracket: N/A,
State: Iowa,
Country: United States |
Perhaps, as Iowa was aware of all the facts prior, if the Polk County attorney had been on the job, there might have been reasonable cause to petition him for civil commitment, with the past violence, and the trouble he was getting himself in as soon as he stepped into Iowa. They have the authority here to petition when there has been a recent overt act, whether a person is charged or convicted. They do it to guys in prison every day, whether he fits the profile or not.
In Iowa we have a civil commitment law, But since it was abused by the state ( commitment was being used againest one time sex offenders if they were arrested for driving without a license or a dwi) the iowa supreme court struck it down for commitments after non sexual reoffenses.
Another thing, his rape conviction was againest an adult. He would have not been affected by iowa's 2000 foot rule since it only applied to sex offenses with children.
I live in iowa and for what i heard is the baby sitter was so neglectful it was only after she heard the girl crying did anyone notice the girl wasnt where she was suppose to be. By the time they got to her and the perp he already had all her clothes off and had started to assault her. Why no officials have brought up the fact the babysitter was so neglectful is beyond me but giving child predators access to children isnt againest the law either.
Forum Home
| Top of Thread | Jump To Parent (166086)
Thread
164001, admin, Oct 09, 2005 06:22 PM [Introduction]
164009, Renunciation, Oct 09, 2005 11:15 PM
164015, artie, Oct 10, 2005 12:45 AM
164018, orolan, Oct 10, 2005 12:57 AM
164036, dp1, Oct 10, 2005 07:06 AM
164203, mawmaw, Oct 11, 2005 10:39 PM
164236, 1dadof5, Oct 12, 2005 05:54 AM
164258, artie, Oct 12, 2005 12:30 PM
164269, Valerie, Oct 12, 2005 01:22 PM
164341, orolan, Oct 12, 2005 09:27 PM
164367, Valerie, Oct 13, 2005 01:37 AM
164378, artie, Oct 13, 2005 02:28 AM
165120, orolan, Oct 20, 2005 05:47 PM
165478, 1dadof5, Oct 26, 2005 05:48 AM
165488, Navigatr1, Oct 26, 2005 01:59 PM
167251, Rejected
165158, myoung, Oct 21, 2005 05:33 AM [access]
165176, Valerie, Oct 21, 2005 03:03 PM
165277, orolan, Oct 22, 2005 07:02 PM
165231, Navigatr1, Oct 22, 2005 04:13 AM
165241, Valerie, Oct 22, 2005 12:10 PM
165255, Navigatr1, Oct 22, 2005 03:16 PM
165267, Valerie, Oct 22, 2005 04:08 PM
165289, Navigatr1, Oct 23, 2005 02:37 AM
165352, Renunciation, Oct 23, 2005 11:21 PM
165806, orolan, Oct 30, 2005 01:44 AM
165382, myoung, Oct 24, 2005 02:31 PM [Nav]
165383, myoung, Oct 24, 2005 02:36 PM [Nav]
165276, orolan, Oct 22, 2005 06:54 PM
165290, Navigatr1, Oct 23, 2005 02:45 AM
165354, orolan, Oct 24, 2005 02:45 AM
166086, rarepearl1, Nov 01, 2005 06:02 PM [Library]
169761, suicidalnut, Dec 19, 2005 10:55 PM
165944, anti, Oct 31, 2005 11:46 PM [steve, sad...]
169588, StungOnTheNet, Dec 15, 2005 10:11 PM
169598, orolan, Dec 16, 2005 03:49 AM
169610, 1dadof5, Dec 16, 2005 05:50 AM
169639, Renunciation, Dec 16, 2005 05:41 PM
Forum Home
| Top of Thread
|
|
|
