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Thread (Discussion): [WRIC] Sex offender controversy
Message 157503
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Posted by admin
on Jul 28, 2005 10:18 PM | Also by admin
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Discuss the article Sex offender controversy, which appeared on WRIC on July 28, 2005.
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Message 157504 (In Reply to Message 157503)
Posted by steve
on Jul 29, 2005 02:25 AM | Also by steve
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State Police tell us it's not against the law to post the information, but if the sex offender files a complaint because he or she feels they are being harassed, you could be charged.
Do you think that will happen?
Robert W Davis record from Virginia Sex Offender Registry Website.
If he was incarcerated, it wasn't for long. He was convicted on January 19, 2005 in Powhatan County Circuit Court (the neighboring county to where he lives now), his initial registration was on March 1, 2005 and he re-registered on August 8, 2005. His conviction was under the statute "INDECENT LIBERTIES WITH CHILD BY CUSTODIAN".
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Message 157520 (In Reply to Message 157503)
Posted by Silverthorne
on Jul 29, 2005 02:56 AM | Also by Silverthorne
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""If the person is guilty and it looks like that's the case here, you forfeit your right. So too bad for his privacy," said neighborhood resident Karen Nelson.
State Police tell us it's not against the law to post the information, but if the sex offender files a complaint because he or she feels they are being harassed, you could be charged."
Sounds like Mrs.Nelsons family needs a complete background check including credit report made public. I wonder how many far worse criminals live in this neighborhood then this guy?
Silverthorne
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Message 157567 (In Reply to Message 157504)
Posted by orolan
on Jul 29, 2005 11:40 PM | Also by orolan
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Do you think that will happen?
Sure.
The day after pigs fly.
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Message 163124 (In Reply to Message 157567)
A Registrant Must ALWAYS Retaliate
Posted by RFSOsInRevolt
on Oct 01, 2005 01:52 AM | Also by RFSOsInRevolt
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Actually, I would file complaints just for fun. And I would probably hire an attorney and private investigator to harass them too (yes, HARASS them). They would have to watch their backs forever from that point on. I would call the police on them in a split second. City code inspectors, animal control, you name it.
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Message 163135 (In Reply to Message 157520)
Posted by saintjimmy
on Oct 01, 2005 03:53 AM | Also by saintjimmy
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Excellent idea. The sort of people who love persecuting SOs tend to be the dregs of society with skeletons in their own closets.
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Message 163174 (In Reply to Message 163135)
Posted by Navigatr1
on Oct 01, 2005 03:05 PM | Also by Navigatr1
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I agree. Bet she will whine about how unfair it was that someone made her criminal record public by distributing it in the neighborhood. Moreover, she will minimize her crime.
--Navigatr1
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Message 163193 (In Reply to Message 163174)
Posted by artie
on Oct 01, 2005 05:13 PM | Also by artie
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it's not always the loudmouth with a record. Many times it is just a way to cap her own emotional attraction to that which she opposes. Almost always there is dirt that can be uncovered on someone in his/her immediate family but that would be just as unfair to them if an RSO distributes it.
The real fight should be against the current registry laws and the bundling. Megan's law must survive, in order to do that though it must be broken down to it's original intent.
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Message 163218 (In Reply to Message 163135)
Posted by orolan
on Oct 02, 2005 12:36 AM | Also by orolan
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The sort of people who love persecuting SOs tend to be the dregs of society with skeletons in their own closets.
Well I'm glad your opinion of most cops and politicians agrees with mine;-))
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Message 164205 (In Reply to Message 163193)
Megan's Law Should Not Survive
Posted by RFSOsInRevolt
on Oct 12, 2005 01:20 AM | Also by RFSOsInRevolt
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Actually, Megan's Law does not need to survive. It is worthless. There are 1,000 ways around it. Period. It's a fact.
Instead, Probation/Parole should be watching offenders under their supervision very, very closely. They, not banishment laws, should control where their probationers/parolees live. They should control where, how, and when they work. AND, if they feel like their charges' neighbors, employers, or whomever should know anything about the person, they should inform them however they feel is appropriate. It's very simple and it's effective. When the person has completed probation or parole, that's it. Just like everyone else.
The current system is a complete failure and mess.
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Message 164215 (In Reply to Message 164205)
Posted by artie
on Oct 12, 2005 02:55 AM | Also by artie
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There are 1,000 ways around it. Period. It's a fact.
Surely you are exaggerating a little? and if you are it is not a fact. In fact there are extremely few ways around it especially now.
Unless you want to five 1,000 "Don't do it's" I challenge your statement.
Megan's Law is useful. The exploitation of it is not.
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Message 164247 (In Reply to Message 163124)
Posted by oicu812
on Oct 12, 2005 07:20 AM | Also by oicu812
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really? just for fun? pretty angry, huh?
is this to exagerate the legal limits of the registry law? that's some redirection and exageration thinking, isn't it?
but really what would be the purpose and possible results. who else might you victimize with this tactic?
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Message 164474 (In Reply to Message 164247)
Posted by RFSOsInRevolt
on Oct 13, 2005 10:59 PM | Also by RFSOsInRevolt
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really? just for fun?
Of course, not ONLY for fun, even though I do enjoy harassing Registry Rednecks. It would also be to cause them problems in general. It is usually effective at tempering their behavior.
pretty angry, huh?
Yes. I can't begin to do it justice by just describing it.
is this to exagerate the legal limits of the registry law? that's some redirection and exageration thinking, isn't it?
Not sure what this means.
but really what would be the purpose and possible results. who else might you victimize with this tactic?
I stated three big purposes above. Who cares who else might be victimized? Do the Registry Rednecks worry about victimizing my children, my family when they do what they do? Are you kidding me?!
I have personally seen my children abused at a level where I have thought that I would prefer that they were sexually abused at some level instead. The people who have done it are lucky they have the police to protect them because otherwise instead of just harassing them I would be inside their homes and they would be very lucky if they survived. Seriously.
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Message 164477 (In Reply to Message 164215)
Posted by RFSOsInRevolt
on Oct 13, 2005 11:12 PM | Also by RFSOsInRevolt
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Surely you are exaggerating a little? and if you are it is not a fact. In fact there are extremely few ways around it especially now.
I should have qualified that. I should have said there are a 1,000 ways if your I.Q. is over say 80 and you live in a fairly large city (which I would bet a majority of former offenders do). And the Registrant does need at least a modest amount of cash - a normal job provides enough. Being rich makes nullifying Registration trivial. 1,000 ways was just a swag, it would depend on how you counted all the little nuances.
But anyway, I also should have better explained what I meant by "ways around it". I did not mean not Registering. I meant Register but live your life in such a way to enhance the uselessness of Registration. That is SO easy. I've done it for a very long time now and I have thoroughly convinced myself (and it is reinforced nearly daily) that Registration is useless. And all the while that it's been useless it has been damaging society.
I have to laugh every time I see the latest attempt to make Registration useful. Like all the news articles advising the sheeple to "check for SEX OFFENDERS in your neighborhoods!!!!!!!!", Banishment, e-mail alerts, maps with former offenders pinpointed, the National Register (what will that waste possibly accomplish!?!), etc., etc. What a huge, huge, colossal waste of energy!
I spend very little time where I'm Registered. I'll bet you don't know where I do spend my time. Neither does ANYONE else. The police and my neighbors could not tell you if their very lives depended on it. Out of the thousands of police who work near where I live I would bet my life that only one would even recognize me. MAYBE. I'm leaving town tomorrow. Know where I'm going? Surely someone does, right? Too funny. That's alright though as long as Registration, etc., etc., etc., etc., etc. makes you feel safe (seems to do the opposite most of the time!) and lets you feel that you're better than some people and you're "sticking it to them". It's not really about protecting children you know.
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Message 164509 (In Reply to Message 164477)
Posted by Renunciation
on Oct 14, 2005 02:31 AM | Also by Renunciation
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Geez, I thought I had issues.
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Message 164556 (In Reply to Message 164509)
Posted by mawmaw
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If he was incarcerated, it wasn't for long. He was convicted on January 19, 2005 in Powhatan County Circuit Court (the neighboring county to where he lives now), his initial registration was on March 1, 2005 and he re-registered on August 8, 2005. His conviction was under the statute "INDECENT LIBERTIES WITH CHILD BY CUSTODIAN
He has NO excuse to INDECENT LIBERTIES WITH CHILD , I would be right out there with the flyers !!
Maby he will change his sexual desires for a consenting adult instead of a child !!
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Message 164576 (In Reply to Message 164556)
Posted by 1dadof5
on Oct 15, 2005 04:43 AM | Also by 1dadof5
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maybe he was convicted of drying off his child after a bath. If you still have to bathe and dry off your child after they turn 2 then your only doing it to get your sick jollies according to the james dobson crowd
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Message 164690 (In Reply to Message 163218)
Posted by mawmaw
on Oct 16, 2005 05:01 AM | Also by mawmaw
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Skeletons or Sex Criminal ??
I dont want to have to wear the label of "Sex Criminal " and report in for the rest of my life and my family be ashamed of me... so I will choose the skeletons ..... we ALL have a choice !
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Message 165118 (In Reply to Message 164690)
Posted by orolan
on Oct 20, 2005 05:43 PM | Also by orolan
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I dont want to have to wear the label of "Sex Criminal " and report in for the rest of my life
Well, I only have to wear the label of "sex offender" for another 17 months. And I'll still a good 40 years of "life" left:-))
and my family be ashamed of me
My family isn't ashamed of me at all. Sorry to disappoint you;-))
so I will choose the skeletons
Being from Kentucky I'm sure you and your family have plenty of those:-))
we ALL have a choice !
Yes we do. And I choose to see your vitriol as the idiotic spew it is.
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157503, admin, Jul 28, 2005 10:18 PM [Introduction]
157504, steve, Jul 29, 2005 02:25 AM
157567, orolan, Jul 29, 2005 11:40 PM
163124, RFSOsInRevolt, Oct 01, 2005 01:52 AM [A Registrant Must ALWAYS Retaliate]
164247, oicu812, Oct 12, 2005 07:20 AM
164474, RFSOsInRevolt, Oct 13, 2005 10:59 PM
157520, Silverthorne, Jul 29, 2005 02:56 AM
163135, saintjimmy, Oct 01, 2005 03:53 AM
163174, Navigatr1, Oct 01, 2005 03:05 PM
163193, artie, Oct 01, 2005 05:13 PM
164205, RFSOsInRevolt, Oct 12, 2005 01:20 AM [Megan's Law Should Not Survive]
164215, artie, Oct 12, 2005 02:55 AM
164477, RFSOsInRevolt, Oct 13, 2005 11:12 PM
164509, Renunciation, Oct 14, 2005 02:31 AM
164556, mawmaw, Oct 14, 2005 10:26 PM
164576, 1dadof5, Oct 15, 2005 04:43 AM
163218, orolan, Oct 02, 2005 12:36 AM
164690, mawmaw, Oct 16, 2005 05:01 AM
165118, orolan, Oct 20, 2005 05:43 PM
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