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Thread (Discussion): [KELOLAND.COM] New law would create national sex offender database

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Message 141608 (In Reply to Message 141594)

Posted by dp1 on Nov 28, 2004 05:34 PM | Also by dp1

Gender: Female, Age Bracket: N/A, State: Florida, Country: United States

What good will that do? Aren't you one of those who claims recidivism numbers are worhless because they only cover the first 3-5 years and of course we all know SOs will wait 10-15 years before they reoffend;-)

Yes indeed. And who are the ones at highest risk to reoffend? It's the releasee from prison and don't a large percentage of their crimes occur after their release? GPS monitoring has been proven to have SOME psychological deterrance according to some studies. If nothing else, it gives the parole officer and idea of his habits which can be very useful in determining relapse or future risk. It's simply a tool and will not prevent crimes plain and simple.

There's no question a national registry, state registry, county registry or any other registry for that matter won't help in a situation where a total stranger jumps out of nowhere and attacks. Doing a name search against a national data base is sure a heck of lot easier than inquiring on every single state and county registry and writing letters and e-mails to every single police department in the country. Don't you agree?

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Message 141594

Posted by orolan on Nov 28, 2004 02:22 PM | Also by orolan

Gender: Male, Age Bracket: N/A, State: N/A, Country: United States

<blockquote>If he registered in another state he'd be on the national registry.</blockquote>
Irrelevant. If the offender is not in the state he's registered in, the fact that he is also on a national registry does no good. Unless you know his name and where he is "supposed" to be. Back to the WiFi laptop and looking at 500,000 photos:-)

<blockquote>When you run someone's NCIC now</blockquote>
Again, this requires knowing the person's name. People doing abductions from mall parking lots are not in the habit of allowing their prospective abductees to run background checks on them prior to going on with the abduction;-)

<blockquote>I think Dru's law is trying to prevent people from not having access to information on sex offenders just because a state line is in the way.
</blockquote>
Since when was access to state registries restricted? Out of all the registries, I know of only two that have some semblance of restriction to insure that "community notification" stays in the "community". The rest of the states leave it out there for the whole world to see.

<blockquote>My interpretation of Dru's law was more forcused on the intense supervision after release</blockquote>
A portion of the bill:
 (1) IN GENERAL- Each State shall intensively monitor, for not less than 1 year, any person described under paragraph (2) who--
 (A) has been unconditionally released from incarceration by the State; and
(B) has not been civilly committed pursuant to a civil commitment proceeding, or any equivalent proceeding under State law.

Note that is not "1 year", but an indefinite time period that is AT LEAST 1 year. Note also Part A, where it says "unconditionally released". In other words, game over. Time's up. Sentence complete. No court in the land will rule that long-term GPS monitoring is not further punishment under such conditions. This is one of the main stumbling blocks in the House, and the House won't pass this bill until it is either stricken or re-worded to define "monitoring". The few Representatives I've spoken to about the issue see "monitoring" as routine address verification.

<blockquote>GPS monitoring for a year after release that wouldn't be a bad idea.</blockquote>
What good will that do? Aren't you one of those who claims recidivism numbers are worhless because they only cover the first 3-5 years and of course we all know SOs will wait 10-15 years before they reoffend;-)

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141534, admin, Nov 24, 2004 06:55 PM [Introduction]
      141544, Navigatr1, Nov 25, 2004 04:19 AM [Should Take It Further]
            141558, 1dadof5, Nov 26, 2004 08:10 AM
      141568, orolan, Nov 26, 2004 07:05 PM
            141587, 1dadof5, Nov 28, 2004 08:21 AM
            141591, dp1, Nov 28, 2004 12:07 PM
                  141594, orolan, Nov 28, 2004 02:22 PM
                        141608, dp1, Nov 28, 2004 05:34 PM
                              141648, poetsdreamscape, Nov 30, 2004 02:21 AM [national registry?]
                                    141725, orolan, Dec 02, 2004 06:19 PM [Poet]
                              141689, orolan, Dec 02, 2004 02:32 AM
                                    141807, Navigatr1, Dec 04, 2004 04:04 PM [Make Them Public]
                                          142256, gfndresident, Dec 11, 2004 07:45 PM [IT wouldn't Have Helpe...]
                                                142319, orolan, Dec 13, 2004 01:54 AM
                              143448, roccy, Jan 08, 2005 06:25 AM [ummmm]
                                    143521, orolan, Jan 09, 2005 03:11 PM [roccy]
                                          143555, dp1, Jan 09, 2005 08:01 PM
                                                143567, orolan, Jan 10, 2005 02:28 AM
                                                      143573, dp1, Jan 10, 2005 04:08 AM
                                                            143688, orolan, Jan 12, 2005 12:53 AM

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