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Thread (Discussion): [HoustonChronicle.com] Former teacher fighting sex offender ruling
Message 140706
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Posted by admin
on Nov 04, 2004 08:10 PM | Also by admin
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Discuss the article Former teacher fighting sex offender ruling, by Kevin O'Hanlon, which appeared on HoustonChronicle.com on October 30, 2004.
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Message 140723 (In Reply to Message 140706)
Posted by 1dadof5
on Nov 05, 2004 02:48 AM | Also by 1dadof5
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I know I will catch some flak from this post but most of you already know my personal situation years ago resulting in my oldest daughter forming my opinion on this subject. Not knowing the relationship history here and how committed the relationship is, This is another example of the government putting its nose
Where it doesn’t belong, In people’s personal lives. If this girl is old enough (16) to give consent to a sexual relationship, then this video should be a non-issue as it was made between two consenting, legal age people in a relationship and was never intended to be seen by anyone else or distributed to anyone else for that matter. The roommate has violated their privacy by viewing the video to see what was on it to begin with. He is guilty of theft as this tape was not his property. I hope this guy is no longer his roommate as he doesn’t need enemies posing as friends. This is also a prime example of how screwed up our legal system is. If it is not illegal to perform the sex act, then it certainly shouldn’t be illegal to videotape the event for personal use. This is a double standard that needs to be reversed by the courts. Now, if this boyfriend had made this video for the purpose of selling or otherwise distributing the tape to others, then it is a different matter as it is exploiting the girl against her wishes as I am very sure that most 17 year olds would not like others to see such a personal act.
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Message 140757 (In Reply to Message 140723)
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Posted by dp1
on Nov 06, 2004 06:17 AM | Also by dp1
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What do you suppose he was going to do with this porn after he broke up with his girlfriend? I mean, he wasn't going to marry this girl. It's not likely that a someone will find their true soul mate and make a porn movie with her before buying her a diamond ring and a house.
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Message 140759 (In Reply to Message 140757)
oh bull!
Posted by monkey4u
on Nov 06, 2004 07:34 AM | Also by monkey4u
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I am a mother of 15-16 yr old girl, he had no rights even if she did consent, tell me one girl who didnt have a crush on a older man? did this amount to consent? no, no, no! I had my child at 16 so i think i can speak from both sides of this fence, my daughter was just assaulted by a 30 yr old man(perv) who did this lil crush thing, and oh man, what a mess, she was in a teenage dream until the nightmare fail on her. Do you really think a sixteen yr old can consent to a mature sexually active male? I dont believe they r in my league!
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Message 140851 (In Reply to Message 140706)
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on Nov 08, 2004 01:42 AM | Also by Silverthorne
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So having sex wasnt a crime but filming it was?
Silverthorne
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Message 140902 (In Reply to Message 140851)
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So having sex wasnt a crime but filming it was?
Yes. As it should be. Think about it. Filming sex (aka making porn) cranks things up a notch don't ya think?
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Message 141005 (In Reply to Message 140902)
Posted by Silverthorne
on Nov 11, 2004 11:25 PM | Also by Silverthorne
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In this case though its pretty clear he wasn't making "porn" for distrubution. I know people who film their bedroom escapades. I know some who did so before they turned 18 and are now married. I supposed I should turn them all in and ruin their lives?
Silverthorne
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Message 141012 (In Reply to Message 141005)
Posted by dp1
on Nov 12, 2004 02:59 AM | Also by dp1
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But what are the chances that if they broke up he would destroy the porn? How do we know how many other teens he may have dated and filmed having sex? Maybe he's collecting them? Who knows?
I have moral issues with porn. I consider what I do in the bedroom a very private thing. I'd be mortified if someone filmed me. And to think he pushed his polluted morals on a minor? It's not right. Let these teens grow up before we start allowing perverts to pollute them, know what I mean? No prolem if he's a pig, just find someone of legal age to pig out with. Not someone's teenaged daughter. Sorry, that's disgusting.
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Message 141028 (In Reply to Message 141012)
Posted by 1dadof5
on Nov 12, 2004 07:44 AM | Also by 1dadof5
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Oops, sorry, forgot this thread. All of you make very valid points. I have a hard fence to walk since 3 of my 5 kids are now 14 through 17 ( boy14 girl 16 boy 17). I know I have a hard time not having a double standard for my boys and girls. They are different. I don’t worry about my boys the same way as the girls because I am a male too and know the boys don’t have near as much to fear as do the girls. It helps that the 2 oldest boys play football and are hitting 6 feet tall already and could avoid a bad situation better simply because of speed and strength. All my kids communicate freely with my wife and I as well as my oldest girls mom. I know what they do online, and when they are out. I know that many of the girls and boys their age group are having sex. I also have no rosy painted idea of how some of these kids behave. Some of you would simply be blown away at what some teens are capable of doing WITHOUT an adult needing to influence them. This is why the Law is 16 in many states because many of these kids commit adult/capital crimes already. We got a few 16 y/o already in state prisons. I certainly don’t want my daughter with a guy like that, but its legal and if she wasn’t raised with proper boundaries and open communication, she would do these things regardless of my wishes. The best way to prevent these things like this video’s even being made, is to make sure we have explicit boundaries established and have full knowledge of our children’s activities. And discipline. Now that this situation has happened and the relationship is there, the consenting relationship, however short-lived, should prevail as it (the video) was probably not made with ill intentions. It may be immoral and disgusting, but it’s a prime example of why our kids need to have firm moral values established so they don’t willingly make bad choices. This is an area of sexual misconduct that parents can do so much more to prevent but wont or don’t know how to do it. As far as a broken heart or a short lived relationship, that is part of life and many of us have been there too. Only we have the power
To make a difference, one child at a time. When this is achieved, these situations will decline substantially.
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Message 141055 (In Reply to Message 141028)
Posted by dp1
on Nov 13, 2004 03:13 AM | Also by dp1
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Well said Dadof5. However, this guy was a teacher. He knew exactly what he was doing. He's a professional in the field of teaching our children. There's no excuse for his lapse in judgement.
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140706, admin, Nov 04, 2004 08:10 PM [Introduction]
140723, 1dadof5, Nov 05, 2004 02:48 AM
140757, dp1, Nov 06, 2004 06:17 AM [Question]
140759, monkey4u, Nov 06, 2004 07:34 AM [oh bull!]
140851, Silverthorne, Nov 08, 2004 01:42 AM
140902, dp1, Nov 09, 2004 02:00 PM
141005, Silverthorne, Nov 11, 2004 11:25 PM
141012, dp1, Nov 12, 2004 02:59 AM
141028, 1dadof5, Nov 12, 2004 07:44 AM
141055, dp1, Nov 13, 2004 03:13 AM
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