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Thread (Discussion): [CNN] Police seek son of vigilante mom

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Message 138167
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Posted by admin on Jul 29, 2004 02:07 PM | Also by admin
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Discuss the article Police seek son of vigilante mom, which appeared on CNN on July 29, 2004.

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Message 138181 (In Reply to Message 138167)


Posted by orolan on Jul 30, 2004 12:15 AM | Also by orolan
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Let me get this straight. Boy gets molested. Distraught Mom murders his molester in cold blood in a packed courtroom. Mom gets 10 years for this event, which is overturned on a technicality. In spite of the quite clear, damning and indisputable evidence against her, the DA declines to retry her for her crime.
Meanwhile, sonny garners quite a juvenile reputation, and goes on to collect 18 arrests in his first five years as an adult (do I sense a massive failure in the CA juvenile justice system here?)
Mom apparently is still so distraught over her son's molestation all those years ago that she turns to manufacturing crystal meth for solace and comfort, which lands her in the pen (sans freedom-giving technicality).
Sonny gains his 19th arrest by beating the crap out of his neighbor. After 32 days in jail he wastes no time, not even to stop and have a few beers after being "dry", and goes back to finish the job he started a month ago. But this time he went to far.

Question.
Is the behavior of mother and son a result of the events of 11 years ago? Is the son this way because he was molested? Or are these folks just plain out "bad" people, and would have turned out this way with or without the molestation?

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Message 138186 (In Reply to Message 138181)
orolan


Posted by momto2girls on Jul 30, 2004 01:22 AM | Also by momto2girls
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This may be kinda off the beaten track a bit...but I was told by the police officer here where I live 3 years ago that it would be hard to convict a distraught mother who is in counseling and on medication for severe depression. Now whether that is true or not I never found out. I guess good ole boy justice is still alive n well in Wyoming.

I know that I am the mother of a child that has been molested, and the thought has been there to kill the man and boy that did those things to my daughter, but to go so far as to walk in a courtroom and kill him in cold blood...I dont think that is going to happen anytime soon.

i do know that the experts want to blame a lot of things on the fact someone was molested as a child, but to have that many arrest convictions is in my opinion just a bad seed...his mother may have been distraught but c'mon ya cant blame everything that happens to you on being molested, its all about the choices we make and the decisions to do right or be just plain ole fashioned bad.

the DA declines to retry her for her crime.

Maybe they figured that a jury would not convict her, seeing that if there were people on that jury that were parents themselves they may have thought that the parents were secretly patting that woman on the back if only in there minds. Every parent that I have spoken to tells me that they would have killed the man that molested their child...but how many actually have?

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Posted by brennus on Jul 30, 2004 01:42 AM | Also by brennus
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I do know that the experts want to blame a lot of things on the fact someone was molested as a child, but to have that many arrest convictions is in my opinion just a bad seed...his mother may have been distraught but c'mon ya cant blame everything that happens to you on being molested, its all about the choices we make and the decisions to do right or be just plain ole fashioned bad.


There is a case in Florida about a man who beat up his molester and got away with it, but will go to prison for unrelated charges. He also had a criminal history. maybe Steve can link to it since its in the archives.

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Message 138192 (In Reply to Message 138181)


Posted by Silverthorne on Jul 30, 2004 04:34 AM | Also by Silverthorne
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Bad people.

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138167, admin, Jul 29, 2004 02:07 PM [Introduction]
      138181, orolan, Jul 30, 2004 12:15 AM
            138186, momto2girls, Jul 30, 2004 01:22 AM [orolan]
                  138187, brennus, Jul 30, 2004 01:42 AM
            138192, Silverthorne, Jul 30, 2004 04:34 AM
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