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Forum: In the News

Thread (Discussion): [BendBulletin.com] Officials explain boy's release

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Message 138161 (In Reply to Message 138154)

Posted by brennus on Jul 29, 2004 05:42 PM | Also by brennus

Gender: Male, Age Bracket: 21 - 29, State: Wisconsin, Country: United States

They are to have no contact with their victims or children under 18 years old without written permission from their sex offender treatment therapists or community justice officers;
And they are not to frequent places where there are children younger than 18, including parks, school playgrounds, arcades and swimming pools, without written permission from their community justice officers.

Does anyone else believe that this restriction on juvenile SO's is going too far? The boy which was charged is only 12 years old and he was accused of molesting a 6-year old girl. Theoretically, without permission, he could have been sent to detention for hanging out with 17-year olds he knew - even though they would have been five years older than him. They copied adult SO's restrictions on associating with minors to the juvenile system. They should change the restrictions so that juvenile SO's can freely associate with juveniles their age or older.

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Message 138154
OK a few things here.......

Posted by Silverthorne on Jul 29, 2004 04:36 PM | Also by Silverthorne

Gender: Male, Age Bracket: N/A, State: Arizona, Country: United States

<blockquote>"The boy was home during the day, without supervision, while his parents were at work, Deschutes County Deputy District Attorney Christina McMahan said. "</blockquote>

Charge the parents with neglect.  They know he's a sex offender (and a 12 year old) why the heck was he home alone?

<blockquote>These include limits on how long juveniles can be held in detention, a lack of resources for juvenile sex offenders and supervision plans that rely on the cooperation of the offender's parents. </blockquote>

Well since  the government has gone ahead and made all these "special laws" that apply only to sex offenders and no other criminals (like the registry) why don't they just extend them to juveniles.  In fact I dont recall seeing anywhere juveniles are excluded.

How about civil commitment?  This kid has proven he can't control himself.  Lock him up, polygraph him, put a peter-meter on him and keep him locked up until he isn't a danger.  Gee if he were in Florida he might get out in time to collect social security?

<blockquote>"Previously convicted of raping one child, the boy was waiting for a place to open in a residential treatment program — and living at home — when he allegedly sexually abused a 6-year-old girl in his neighborhood. "</blockquote>

Maybe DP1 can answer this.  If your SO's get out of jail and are supposed to go to an inpatient treatment center are they let out or KEPT in jail until they go to the hospital?  It seems to me they'd keep him locked up until there is an opening.

<blockquote>In addition, McMahan said the law requires authorities to offer juvenile offenders an opportunity to reform with the least restrictions possible, while still keeping the community safe. </blockquote>

Obviously since he is a sex offender the community is in "danger".  Did he have to register when he went home?  What kind of law allows them to "reform"????? This is all about public safety and reform isn't part of that ask any adult SO.

<blockquote>In June, he was found guilty of the rape and strangulation charges. </blockquote>

You can bet if he was 22 and not 12 he'd be doing about 30 years in jail for these charges.

<blockquote>As part of his conditions of release, McMahan and the district's attorney's office required that the boy: 
Be under 24-hour adult supervision; 
Have no contact with the victim; 
Not take the school bus; 
Not have any unsupervised contact with children; 
And not have any unsupervised computer access. </blockquote>

Good restrictions again why was he home alone?  Mom?  Dad?  Where are you?  You knew about these restrictions?  Lock them ALL up.  On a side note why the computer access restriction?

<blockquote>Scanlon said the county does have five electronic ankle bracelets the juvenile department can use to monitor offenders. The bracelets are not usually used for sex offenders, because they only monitor when the juvenile leaves and enters the home. </blockquote>

Did he lure this latest victim to his house?  Maybe a jailcell would be a better monitoring device?

<blockquote>Johnson said the boy did well in school — he didn't receive any complaints — and had started his sex offender treatment. When summer started, Johnson and the boy's parents agreed that he would work at a family friend's business during the day, where he could be supervised. </blockquote>

Ah DP1 is this normal?  Passing the buck like this to someone else to supervise SO's?

Conclusion:

All in all a screwed up case.  While I assume the boy was exposed to improper sexuality at somepoint the fact it doesnt mention him being a victim makes me wonder.  I've read a book called "Killer Clowns" (about John Wayne Gacy).  He was never a victim and look what he ended up as (serial rapist/killer of boys and men).  I believe some people are just hardwired "bad" and this kid may be one of them. I mean rape and strangulation?  I'd compare this kid to those two in England a few years ago who led a little 4 year old to a train yard, killed him, poured paint in his eyes then dumped his body on the tracks where it was cut in half.  They were around 12 as I recall and recently got out of prison (I'll try and find a link).  They were just "bad kids" (although one was apparently abused).  Still even if they were abused nothing justfies this.

Silverthorne

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138066, admin, Jul 27, 2004 11:27 PM [Introduction]
      138150, orolan, Jul 29, 2004 04:20 PM
      138154, Silverthorne, Jul 29, 2004 04:36 PM [OK a few things here.......]
            138161, brennus, Jul 29, 2004 05:42 PM
                  138183, orolan, Jul 30, 2004 12:28 AM [Brennus]
                        138185, brennus, Jul 30, 2004 12:50 AM
            138182, orolan, Jul 30, 2004 12:24 AM [Silverthorne]
                  138193, Silverthorne, Jul 30, 2004 04:35 AM
                        138270, koolkiddo14, Jul 31, 2004 04:02 PM [i am confused]
                              138328, dp1, Aug 02, 2004 11:14 PM [koolkiddo14]
                                    138331, orolan, Aug 03, 2004 01:02 AM [DP1]
                                          138332, dp1, Aug 03, 2004 03:20 AM [Orolan]
                                    138348, dp1, Aug 04, 2004 02:26 AM [Internet safety tips]
                                          138365, koolkiddo14, Aug 05, 2004 01:12 AM
                                                138377, dp1, Aug 05, 2004 05:30 AM [Koolkiddo14]
      138326, orolan, Aug 02, 2004 07:38 PM [RE koolkiddo14]

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OK a few things here.......