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Thread (Discussion): [scotsman.com] Gang 'murdered suspected paedophile at bus stop'

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Posted by Silverthorne on Apr 23, 2004 02:45 AM | Also by Silverthorne

Gender: Male, Age Bracket: N/A, State: Arizona, Country: United States

I do believe its higher in the UK. I also believe though the police here and the media aren't in too much of a hurry to "protect" sex offenders.

Silverthorne

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Posted by steve on Apr 22, 2004 07:27 PM | Also by steve

Gender: Male, Age Bracket: N/A, State: Virginia, Country: United States

I realize it happens here, but the rate of vigilantism against sex offenders there seems to be *much* higher than it is here.  Part of my perception could be related to media coverage, but let me put it this way - I'm not actively looking for this type of crime outside the U.S., but I come across coverage of it more than I do for incidents in the U.S., which I'm actually looking for.  There are more than 10 times as many convicted sex offenders in the U.S. as in the U.K.  I don't know why the frequency of vigilantism there is higher (or seems higher), but everything else being equal I'd expect to see 10 times as many incidents in the U.S. as there based on the size of the sex offender population in the U.S. and I feel like I'm actually seeing *more* incidents total in the U.K. than in the U.S.

And I'm not saying that these incidents don't occur here.  I'm sure they do.  I don't try to hide acts of violence against sex offenders when I come across him here.  Heck, I posted the article about the offender murdered in Wisconsin over the weekend, the guy from New Hampshire who stabbed an offender he knew and burned the home of several offenders whose names he got from the registry and most other cases I've come across.

One thing we should be clear of though - there are 200,000+ registered convicted sex offenders in the U.S. and if you pulled 200,000 regular citizens at random in the U.S. statistics indicate that 15-20 would be murdered each year.  So it goes to follow that some sex offenders are going to be murdered just because murder happens.  I'm pretty sure the murder rate of convicted felons is quite a bit higher than the population at large as well (I'd have to locate the numbers).  My point is that we can't just hear "sex offender murdered" and assume 1. that it had something to do with the person's status as a sex offender and 2. that the murderer found out that the person was a convicted sex offender after looking at the public registry.  On the flipside, based on actual facts in new stories in the U.K. it's often quite clear that the fact that the person was a sex offender was the reason the person was attacked or killed.

And for the record, I don't have anything against the U.K.  I'm merely discussing issues there because that's the country where I'm reading about what appears to be high rates of vigilantism against sex offenders.

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131203, admin, Apr 22, 2004 10:23 AM [Introduction]
      131204, steve, Apr 22, 2004 02:34 PM
            131227, Silverthorne, Apr 22, 2004 06:52 PM [Dont agree]
                  131230, steve, Apr 22, 2004 07:01 PM
                        131233, Silverthorne, Apr 22, 2004 07:08 PM [I'll pass Steve]
                              131238, steve, Apr 22, 2004 07:27 PM
                                    131293, Silverthorne, Apr 23, 2004 02:45 AM [Media]
            131460, orolan, Apr 24, 2004 03:15 AM
            131489, victorialondon, Apr 24, 2004 02:15 PM [Could it be the abscence of a nation...]
                  131515, orolan, Apr 24, 2004 08:23 PM [Victorialondon]
      131225, Silverthorne, Apr 22, 2004 06:49 PM [Life sentence?]
            131503, victorialondon, Apr 24, 2004 06:55 PM [It's irrelevent whether he was convi...]
            131512, orolan, Apr 24, 2004 08:15 PM

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