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Thread (Discussion): [The Athens News] OU says student sex offender can stay in his dorm

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Posted by victorialondon on Apr 10, 2004 05:32 PM | Also by victorialondon

Gender: Female, Age Bracket: 70+, State: N/A, Country: United Kingdom

Yes there is a lot of vigilantism here,it was given a big lift by the News of the Worlds inflammatory name/shame Witchunt ,which Maureen Kanka,and,Mark Klaas flew here to support.A 14 year old girl in Yorkshire was killed by a firebomb intended for a sexual offender,now it seems to be spreading away from sexual offences,a suspected house burglar was battered to death with a baseball bat,northern Ireland is a special case with the paramilitaries beating maiming and killing,sometimes juveniles and Children,and families burned alive in their homes,now racist arson attacks are the norm in Ulster.I'll say more and compare the Britain and America later.

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Posted by steve on Apr 10, 2004 04:59 PM | Also by steve

Gender: Male, Age Bracket: 30 - 39, State: Virginia, Country: United States

<blockquote><span class="mb-quote">You say "Sure the student at Ohio university could br firebombed ,but are the odds of violence or murder as a result of his listing on the public registry mucch more likely than that of the average citizen?".I would say they were higher,and that risk also extends to his family,this is presumably a cause of anxiety to his parents,who may</span></blockquote>

We all know the media is biased, but with the exception of incarcerated sex offenders (which isn't the result of community notification) I haven't heard of a murder or attempted murder of a released sex offender in the U.S. in the 21st century in which registration/notification was known or suspected to be a contributing factor..  And I don't really recall stories of violent vigilantism where that was the case either.  There probably have been some (and I'd like to know of them), but with a quarter million released registered sex offenders in the U.S. I just haven't come across murder and acts of vigilantism attributed to the sex offender registries.  Sure, I've read stories of people who have been murdered or harmed who happened to be registered sex offenders, but there weren't indications the incidents were the result of community notification or public sex offender registries.  When a father beats up or kills someone convicted or accused of molesting his kid that's not because of notification or registration.  When a sex offender is shot or killed and there's no indication that it was due to registration/notification I consider it as a possibility, but have to assume that it's most likely unrelated.  The U.S. adult murder rate is about 1 out of 15,000 so stands to reason that with a quarter million RSOs in the U.S. 20 or so will be murdered each year if their risk is just at the national average.  And as a group they are probably higher risk even if there was no registration/notification.  For me to consider registration/notification putting RSOs at significant risk of murder or violence I'd need to read actual accounts of murder, attempted murder, violence or attempted violence against RSOs where it's known or strongly suspected that registration/notification faciliated it.  Barring that if I read a study that the murder rate of convicted sex offenders after implementation of registration/notification is at a significantly higher rate than prior to registration/notification being implemented I'd think about it too, but more would be needed to prove a correlation.  I hope this makes sense.

If conjecture is good enough, from where I sit I can't help but wonder if the lack of a public sex offender registry in the U.K. is causing a higher rate of vigilantism there than if there was a public sex offender registry.  It sure seems to me like there's quite a bit of vigilantism there.  Do you disagree that there's a lot of vigilantism in the U.K.?  If not, any thoughts?

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129848, admin, Apr 06, 2004 01:23 PM [Introduction]
      129883, dp1, Apr 07, 2004 03:06 AM
            129892, steve, Apr 07, 2004 04:15 AM
      129913, Silverthorne, Apr 07, 2004 08:45 AM
            129954, orolan, Apr 07, 2004 09:50 PM
                  129989, poetsdreamscape, Apr 08, 2004 03:33 AM [either way]
                        130000, MrTruth, Apr 08, 2004 03:02 PM
                              130028, Silverthorne, Apr 09, 2004 01:27 AM [MrTruth]
            130010, victorialondon, Apr 08, 2004 07:03 PM [Yes a lot must depend on the quality...]
                  130013, steve, Apr 08, 2004 08:08 PM
                        130060, victorialondon, Apr 09, 2004 02:47 PM [We agree more than you think.]
                              130065, steve, Apr 09, 2004 05:24 PM
                                    130145, victorialondon, Apr 10, 2004 02:55 PM [Thanks for the criticisms]
                                          130147, victorialondon, Apr 10, 2004 04:39 PM [I seem to have got c...]
                                          130148, steve, Apr 10, 2004 04:59 PM
                                                130149, victorialondon, Apr 10, 2004 05:32 PM [You asked me for ...]
                                                130150, LostTime, Apr 10, 2004 05:40 PM [hunting so's]
                                                      130155, steve, Apr 10, 2004 08:37 PM
                                                            130214, Silverthorne, Apr 11, 2004 08:18 AM [Civil Commitment]
                                                      130262, victorialondon, Apr 12, 2004 02:06 PM [So there must ...]
                                    130152, victorialondon, Apr 10, 2004 06:06 PM [You asked me for eviden...]
                                          130218, victorialondon, Apr 11, 2004 03:24 PM [Now about drunken mo...]
                                                130221, victorialondon, Apr 11, 2004 04:07 PM [CONTINUED(I,m sor...]
                                                130222, victorialondon, Apr 11, 2004 04:25 PM [And now the painf...]
                                                      130233, steve, Apr 11, 2004 09:34 PM
                                                130234, steve, Apr 11, 2004 09:39 PM [Getting cut off]
                                          130219, victorialondon, Apr 11, 2004 03:44 PM [CONTINUED]
                                                130235, steve, Apr 11, 2004 09:55 PM
                                                      130261, victorialondon, Apr 12, 2004 01:57 PM [Thanks for the...]

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