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Forum: In the News
Thread (Discussion): [The Arizona Republic] 2 Mesa educators could lose licenses
Message 129599
Introduction
Posted by admin
on Apr 02, 2004 02:19 PM | Also by admin
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Discuss the article 2 Mesa educators could lose licenses, by Justin Juozapavicius, which appeared on The Arizona Republic on March 31, 2004.
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Message 129630 (In Reply to Message 129599)
This is second story
Posted by Silverthorne
on Apr 03, 2004 01:14 AM | Also by Silverthorne
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The main (first) story about this situation is posted here with discussion:
http://www.sexcriminals.com/forums/102/13729/
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Message 129794 (In Reply to Message 129630)
Posted by orolan
on Apr 05, 2004 06:57 PM | Also by orolan
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Can anybody explain how the DA can prosecute the educators for failing to report a sexual abuse but thinks the evidence is so weak against the abuser that he sends the file back for "more work"?
Either an abuse happened, or it didn't.
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Message 129810 (In Reply to Message 129794)
Orolan
Posted by dp1
on Apr 06, 2004 01:08 AM | Also by dp1
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The schools have a responsibility to report not prosecute. If the case is weak and needs more work then so be it. Either more work will be done and there's a case or there isn't. I don't see how that relieves the school from their responsibility to report. If it wasn't a real criminal sex act but merely a sexual harassment issue then they still had a responsibility to report. So either way they need to report it.
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Message 129821 (In Reply to Message 129794)
Posted by Silverthorne
on Apr 06, 2004 01:54 AM | Also by Silverthorne
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They have to report it. Its up to the police to investigate and the DA to prosecute.
I think this guy should be charged. After reading his past he's obviously someone with no boundries relating to sex and women.
Silverthorne
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Message 129840 (In Reply to Message 129794)
Posted by orolan
on Apr 06, 2004 03:22 PM | Also by orolan
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There is no way to convict the educators of failing to report something that didn't happen. No abuse = no report.
This will, in my eyes, be a gross miscarriage of justice if these two educators go to jail for not reporting abuse, and the abuser walks free because the DA can't prove the abuse happened.
Or maybe he shouldn't be held responsible, because he's just a kid?
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Message 129849 (In Reply to Message 129840)
Posted by Silverthorne
on Apr 06, 2004 05:24 PM | Also by Silverthorne
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Still its up to the police to investigate. The educators aren't professional police officers and aren't charged with researching the crime. Thier only obligation is to report. What happens after that is out of thier hands.
Silverthorne
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Message 129854 (In Reply to Message 129849)
Posted by orolan
on Apr 06, 2004 06:01 PM | Also by orolan
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Their only obligation is to report.
Report what? Sexual abuse? What qualifies them to determine what sexual abuse is?
This case is a prime example. Everybody says they should have reported this sexual abuse. But the DA says he can't prove there even was any abuse. I suppose the educators are supposed to err on the side of caution and report everyrthing to the police, no matter how severe or trivial it may be? Little Johnny has a bruise above his eye, so his math teacher is obligated to report this to the police because Johnny's father might have beat him the night before?
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Message 129864 (In Reply to Message 129854)
Posted by Silverthorne
on Apr 06, 2004 09:59 PM | Also by Silverthorne
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I guess if they even suspect abuse they have to report it. It doesn't have to be slam dunk case just the suspicion or inference that something happend.
Silverthorne
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Thread
129599, admin, Apr 02, 2004 02:19 PM [Introduction]
129630, Silverthorne, Apr 03, 2004 01:14 AM [This is second story]
129794, orolan, Apr 05, 2004 06:57 PM
129810, dp1, Apr 06, 2004 01:08 AM [Orolan]
129821, Silverthorne, Apr 06, 2004 01:54 AM
129840, orolan, Apr 06, 2004 03:22 PM
129849, Silverthorne, Apr 06, 2004 05:24 PM
129854, orolan, Apr 06, 2004 06:01 PM
129864, Silverthorne, Apr 06, 2004 09:59 PM
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