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Thread (Discussion): [ABCNEWS.com] Hazards of the job - oralan
Message 127995
Introduction
Posted by admin
on Mar 03, 2004 08:34 AM | Also by admin
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Discuss the article Hazards of the job, by Leela Jacinto, which appeared on ABCNEWS.com on February 25, 2004.
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Message 128095 (In Reply to Message 127995)
Great Article
Posted by dp1
on Mar 05, 2004 06:19 AM | Also by dp1
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It would be interesting to listen to PervertPolice's comments on this article with his extensive background. Check this out PP.
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Message 128603 (In Reply to Message 128095)
The Article
Posted by pervertpolice
on Mar 13, 2004 01:03 AM | Also by pervertpolice
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This article is dead on. I worked on the FBI Innocent Images Task Force. It consisted of 2 FBI agents, myself & 2 other officers from local agencies. All the online work was done by the 3 locals while the FBI agents did administrative work. We were sent for psychological exams every 6 months.After my 3rd exam, the psychologist was concerned.
My wife said that she had noticed a substantial change in my attitude. My normal laid back and easy going nature had been replaced by edginess, short temperedness and being very moody.
The straw that broke the camels back was a case I made of a guy posting child porn. After seizing his computer and arresting him, I had to veiw and classify every single image. I had to list how many were lewd exhibition, child on child sex, adult on child sex etc.
At the conclusion of that case I went to my boss & told him that I needed to rotate off he task force as these images were now going home with me in my head.
Being a father of 4 was certainly a contributing factor. In fact, the female FBI agent on the task force was puzzled as why it bothered me. A short time later, when she had her first child she asked to be rotated off.
One image I will never forget, no matter how hard I try, was from a case that another TF member made. I was assisting him in classifying the images when we came across a series of pictures of a baby about 8 to 10 months old. It started out with the baby smiling and then showed step by step the sexual abuse the baby was subjected to. That was so vile and disgusting I felt like, well let's just say that I was less than concerned about humane treatment of the guy we arrested on that case.
I later found out that the average stay on Innocent Images is 18 months. I am thankful for the opportunity I had to do that job. I was very happy when I got one of those guys off the street, BUT it definately took its toll on me.
When I was on the task force people would ask me how I could do that job. My answer was always the same. I got to say " You are under arrest". I knew that there would be one less pedophile on the streets for every case I made.
BTW, that's how I got the nickname of Pervert Poloice.
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Message 128625 (In Reply to Message 128603)
PervertPolice
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on Mar 13, 2004 03:35 PM | Also by orolan
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Based on your experiences in doing that job, what's your take on people who seem to be able to do this job year after year? What about private individuals who troll the Net looking for images and passing the sites on to LE or sitting in chat rooms pretending to be someone 20 years younger and of the opposite sex?
Do you suppose some of them have deviant tendencies, and the activity is their "outlet" that has prevented any physical action?
Certainly not trying to start something. Just wondering what you think, since you did the job.
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Message 128633 (In Reply to Message 128603)
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on Mar 13, 2004 09:55 PM | Also by dp1
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I have the utmost respect for you making the decision to leave that position when you did. Unfortunately, some people can't be so honest and face burnout, family problems and who knows what else. I'm impressed. It's obvious that you maintain a well balanced approach to your life. You work to live not live to work.
DP1
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Message 128680 (In Reply to Message 128625)
My Opinion
Posted by pervertpolice
on Mar 15, 2004 01:13 AM | Also by pervertpolice
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That is an excellent question and I do have some thoughts on it. First as I said about the female FBI agent, as long as she didn't have any children she had no problem doing the job. Once she had her first child that changed.
The fellow who rotated in for me was single with no children. He worked there for 4&1/2 years. There is an individual who started there when I did & he is still there. His personality is one of self-centeredness and he doesn't care if he offends, upsets or disrespects others. Finally, there was one case of a US Customs agent that formerly worked online doing the same type of cases. Less than a year after he transfered to do different work he was busted with a large amount of child porn on his computer. SO it seems to me that there are several possible answers as to how some people are able to do that type of work for an extended lenght of time. All I know for sure is that it has had a permenant negative effect on me.
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Message 128681 (In Reply to Message 128633)
Burnout
Posted by pervertpolice
on Mar 15, 2004 01:14 AM | Also by pervertpolice
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Thank You, those words were most kind and appreciated.
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Message 128696 (In Reply to Message 128680)
Posted by Silverthorne
on Mar 15, 2004 02:47 AM | Also by Silverthorne
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"Finally, there was one case of a US Customs agent that formerly worked online doing the same type of cases. Less than a year after he transfered to do different work he was busted with a large amount of child porn on his computer. SO it seems to me that there are several possible answers as to how some people are able to do that type of work for an extended lenght of time."
Well when I was an informant I was "ideal" for the job. While I suspected they knew about my problem they never said anything (I'm sure they did a background check on me and found the lawsuit stuff and other stuff) .
Still after a couple years I was having trouble dealing with what I was seeing and bailed. Sadly my own real life experience is alot worse then any picture I saw (although some were very close). The teacher who molested me had taken some polariods (instant type) of me and I always wondered if some day I'd find myself on the web.
I'm sure PervertPolice can confirm what you really see in these kids is the eyes. They look dead. Its very distrubing.
Silverthorne
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Message 128701 (In Reply to Message 128680)
Posted by orolan
on Mar 15, 2004 03:26 AM | Also by orolan
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Pretty much as I suspected. A broad range of actions / reactions to doing the job.
Good that you got out before it ruined you completely.
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Message 128702 (In Reply to Message 128696)
Dead Look
Posted by pervertpolice
on Mar 15, 2004 05:32 AM | Also by pervertpolice
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The description of the dead look is 100% on target. For instance, in a video of 2 young boys that I tracked, both boys had that empty look even though one was doing the action while the other was receiving.
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Message 128703 (In Reply to Message 128701)
oralan
Posted by pervertpolice
on Mar 15, 2004 05:33 AM | Also by pervertpolice
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Believe it or not, I always give an honest answer.
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127995, admin, Mar 03, 2004 08:34 AM [Introduction]
128095, dp1, Mar 05, 2004 06:19 AM [Great Article]
128603, pervertpolice, Mar 13, 2004 01:03 AM [The Article]
128625, orolan, Mar 13, 2004 03:35 PM [PervertPolice]
128680, pervertpolice, Mar 15, 2004 01:13 AM [My Opinion]
128696, Silverthorne, Mar 15, 2004 02:47 AM
128702, pervertpolice, Mar 15, 2004 05:32 AM [Dead Look]
128701, orolan, Mar 15, 2004 03:26 AM
128703, pervertpolice, Mar 15, 2004 05:33 AM [oralan]
128633, dp1, Mar 13, 2004 09:55 PM [PP]
128681, pervertpolice, Mar 15, 2004 01:14 AM [Burnout]
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